"I'm conducting a 2nd Amendment Audit"

[Mtneer]

Just a matter of time that fools like this force the ATF to reclassify braces and your "pistol" suddenly becomes and illegal SBR.

[JHW87]

Just a matter of time that fools like this force the ATF to reclassify braces and your "pistol" suddenly becomes and illegal SBR.

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

[ChickNorris]

It's a forum. Welcome~

welcome~

welcome~

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

[Gman]

It's a forum. Welcome~

welcome~

welcome~

I see what you did there.

[thedave1164]

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

Welcome to the forum, you won’t find many fudds here, and a lot of people here have done a lot more to defend the second amendment than you might imagine.

Causing the public to panic and tying up police resources to make a point is pretty much pointless, he educated no one on second amendment rights, but he did manage to provide an example of whacko gun owners to those that would normally be pretty neutral.

We have 2 people that open carry at my church every Sunday, no one has made a deal out of it, but I guarantee you that if either walked in with an AR pistol, there would be some concerned folks.

[Skip]

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We have 2 people that open carry at my church every Sunday, no one has made a deal out of it, but I guarantee you that if either walked in with an AR pistol, there would be some concerned folks.

[Bailey Guns]

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

Well, if you continue with that attitude, I'm hopeful this was your last post, too.

I happen to agree with everything you said up until the point you started calling those with a differing opinion fools and fudds. You have no idea who does what to support the 2A at various levels on this forum unless you're out there with them when they do it. And then you pretend to know exactly how everyone's going to respond is just the epitome of arrogance and ignorance. You obviously don't know this group very well. If you've been lurking at all you sure as hell haven't been paying attention. There is at least one very pro 2A state representative that occasionally posts here. There are people that have spent countless hours at the state house lobbying for 2A causes. There are people here that have spent countless hours getting signatures for petitions and other causes that support the 2A.

So what have you done besides come here and piss people off?

[buffalobo]

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

Welcome, join the fray, is my typical reply to first posts. Not sure if it should be for yours.

Glad to see your participation, disappointed you didn't pay attention to posting rules and guide lines. Personal attacks/name calling will make you a short timer.

Bring your best to the debate/discussion/argument, leave the BS elsewhere.

[TheGrey]

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

Yep, without a doubt this was yet another example of things poorly done.

The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

This, too, was poorly done. Were you raised by wolves, or simply incapable of behaving with social grace?

[cstone]

I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.

I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.

Still hasn't been banned by anyone on staff.

It does seem like JHW87 banned themselves. It isn't very hard to join the board, but I'm not sure I understand how it is worth it to join just to make one post and then walk away. But it seems like we may never know.

In general I am pretty libertarian when it comes to 1st and 2nd Amendment Audits. Done well, they can serve a useful purpose to educate and condition a less extreme response to what otherwise is a legal, Constitutionally protected activity. Some auditors are obviously not well educated and are just looking to provoke a bad response. Here is an audit I consider to be pointless and not at all worth the time it takes to watch. Enjoy!