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    2016 Colorado Revised Statutes
    Title 18 - Criminal Code
    Article 13 - Miscellaneous Offenses
    ? 18-13-114. Sale of secondhand property - record - inspection - crime - definitions
    Universal Citation: CO Rev Stat ? 18-13-114 (2016)
    (1) Every secondhand dealer, as defined in subsection (5) of this section, shall make a record, as provided in subsection (2) of this section, of each sale or trade of secondhand property made by him, his agent, or any person acting on his behalf, which sale or trade equals or exceeds thirty dollars in value for each item. Such record shall be made available to any peace officer for inspection at any reasonable time. The secondhand dealer shall mail or deliver the record of the sale or trade to the local law enforcement agency within three days of the date of such sale or trade. The secondhand dealer shall keep a copy of the record of the sale or trade for at least one year after the date of the sale or trade.

    (2) The record required by this section shall be made in writing on forms designed by the Colorado bureau of investigation or a reasonable facsimile thereof as provided in subsection (3) or (4) of this section and shall consist of the following:

    (a) The name, address, and date of birth of the seller or trader;

    (b) The date, time, and place of the sale or trade;

    (c) An accurate and detailed account and description of the item sold or traded, including, but not limited to, any trademark, identification number, serial number, model number, brand name, or other identifying mark on such item;

    (d) The identification number from any of the following forms of identification of the seller or trader:

    (I) A valid Colorado driver's license;

    (II) An identification card issued in accordance with section 42-2-302, C.R.S.;

    (III) A valid driver's license, containing a picture, issued by another state;

    (IV) A military identification card;

    (V) A valid passport;

    (VI) An alien registration card; or

    (VII) A nonpicture identification document issued by a state or federal government entity;

    (e) The signature of the seller or trader;

    (f) A declaration by the secondhand dealer that he is the rightful owner of the secondhand property and a description of how he obtained the property, including the serial number of such property if available or a copy of the bill of sale of such property; and

    (g) A declaration by the secondhand dealer that he has knowledge of the requirement that he mail or deliver a record of the sale or trade to the local law enforcement agency, as required by subsection (1) of this section.

    (3) Any city, municipality, city and county, or county which regulates secondhand dealers and assesses a fee as provided in section 18-13-118 shall print and provide the forms for reporting required pursuant to subsection (2) of this section.

    (4) In cities, municipalities, city and counties, and counties which do not license secondhand dealers and assess a fee as provided in section 18-13-118, the secondhand dealer shall report all the information required pursuant to subsection (2) of this section in a form acceptable to the local law enforcement agency.

    (5) As used in this section and sections 18-13-115 to 18-13-118, unless the context otherwise requires:

    (a) "Local law enforcement agency" means any marshal's office, police department, or sheriff's office with jurisdiction in the locality in which the sale or trade occurs.

    (b) "Peace officer" means any undersheriff, deputy sheriff other than one appointed with authority only to receive and serve summons and civil process, police officer, Colorado state patrol officer, town marshal, or investigator for a district attorney or the attorney general who is engaged in full-time employment by the state, a city, city and county, town, judicial district, or county within this state.

    (c) "Secondhand dealer" means any person whose principal business is that of engaging in selling or trading secondhand property. The term also includes the following: Any person whose principal business is not that of engaging in selling or trading secondhand property but who sells or trades secondhand property through means commonly known as flea markets or any similar facilities in which secondhand property is offered for sale or trade; any person who sells or trades secondhand property from a nonpermanent location; and any person who purchases for resale any secondhand property which carries a manufacturer or serial number. The term does not include:

    (I) A person selling or trading secondhand property so long as such property was not originally purchased for resale and so long as such person does not sell or trade secondhand property more than five weekend periods in any one calendar year, as verified by a declaration to be prepared by the seller. For the purposes of this subparagraph (I), "weekend period" means Friday through the immediately following Monday.

    (II) A person who is a retailer as defined in section 39-26-102 (8), C.R.S., or a wholesaler as defined in section 39-26-102 (18), C.R.S., and who is selling or trading secondhand property in a location which is a permanent storefront location, unless such property carries a manufacturer or serial number;

    (III) A person or organization selling or trading secondhand property at an exhibition or show which is intended to display and advertise a particular commodity or class of products, including, but not limited to, antique exhibitions, firearm exhibitions, home and garden shows, and recreational vehicle shows;

    (IV) A person or organization which is charitable, nonprofit, recreational, fraternal, or political in nature or which is exempt from taxation pursuant to section 501 (c) (3) of the federal "Internal Revenue Code of 1986", as amended;

    (V) A person selling or trading firewood, Christmas trees, plants, food products, agricultural products, fungible goods, pets, livestock, or arts and crafts, excluding jewelry and items crafted of gold or silver, if sold or traded by the artist or craftsman, his immediate family, or regular employees;

    (VI) A person who sells new goods exclusively, is in the business of selling such goods, is in all respects a retailer of such goods, and holds a retail license and a sales tax license in the city, county, or city and county in which the sale occurs;

    (VII) An antique dealer who sells antiques, has a retail license and sales tax license in the city, county, or city and county in which the sale occurs, and sells such antiques from a permanent storefront location.

    (d) "Secondhand property" means the following items of tangible personal property sold or traded by a secondhand dealer:

    (I) Cameras, camera lenses, slide or movie projectors, projector screens, flashguns, enlargers, tripods, binoculars, telescopes, and microscopes;

    (II) Televisions, phonographs, tape recorders, video recorders, radios, tuners, speakers, turntables, amplifiers, record changers, citizens' band broadcasting units and receivers, and video games;

    (III) Skis, ski poles, ski boots, ski bindings, golf clubs, guns, jewelry, coins, luggage, boots, and furs;

    (IV) Typewriters, adding machines, calculators, computers, portable air conditioners, cash registers, copying machines, dictating machines, automatic telephone answering machines, and sewing machines;

    (V) Bicycles, bicycle frames, bicycle derailleur assemblies, bicycle hand brake assemblies, and other bicycle components; and

    (VI) Any item of tangible personal property which is marked with a serial or identification number and the selling price of which is thirty dollars or more, except motor vehicles, off-highway vehicles as defined in section 42-1-102 (63), C.R.S., snowmobiles, ranges, stoves, dishwashers, refrigerators, garbage disposals, boats, airplanes, clothes washers, clothes driers, freezers, mobile homes, and nonprecious scrap metal.

    (6) (a) Any secondhand dealer who violates any of the provisions of subsection (1) or (2) of this section commits a class 1 misdemeanor. Upon a second or subsequent conviction for a violation of subsection (1) or (2) of this section within three years of the date of a prior conviction, a secondhand dealer commits a class 5 felony.

    (b) Any buyer or person who trades with a secondhand dealer or any secondhand dealer who knowingly gives false information with respect to the information required by subsection (2) of this section commits a class 1 misdemeanor.

    (7) (a) Local law enforcement agencies who print and provide forms as designed by the Colorado bureau of investigation for recording the information required by subsection (2) of this section may charge a reasonable fee for each form to defray the cost of providing such form.

    (b) Each local law enforcement agency may establish rules or policies requiring that secondhand dealers provide it with copies of such records. The local law enforcement agency may set forth how often such copies shall be provided to it. Each local law enforcement agency shall forward copies of records received by it to the law enforcement agency having jurisdiction in the area in which the buyer or trader resides.

    (8) In the case of flea markets and similar facilities in which secondhand property is offered for sale or trade, the operator thereof shall inform each secondhand dealer of the requirements of this section and shall provide the forms for recording the information required by subsection (2) of this section. Any person who violates the provisions of this subsection (8) commits a class 3 misdemeanor.

    (9) In the case of flea markets and similar facilities in which secondhand property is offered for sale or trade, the operator thereof shall record the name and address of each secondhand dealer operating at the flea market or similar facility and the identification number of such dealer as obtained from any of the forms of identification enumerated in paragraph (d) of subsection (2) of this section. Such record shall be mailed or delivered by the operator to the local law enforcement agency within three days of the date the secondhand dealer offered secondhand property for sale or trade at the flea market or similar facility. A copy of such record shall be retained by the operator for at least one year after the date the secondhand dealer offered secondhand property for sale or trade at the flea market or similar facility.

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    Thank you Crays. My post is not to stir crap. The FFL who gave me this info and allowed me to take the picture is dear to me. I hope I can convince them to come forward. The camera and audio feed is shocking to me especially being told it was delivered by police. After posting this on a closed political group on social media and being called names by one of the commenters I realize that it will be best that the impacted business present it. Many of us on this forum use that FFL for transfers and thus it will come out soon especially as the doors are about to close. I have no reason to doubt what I was told or shown. All it did was make me very concerned and I tried to alert others. I am sure more will come out soon. I thank everyone in here for not blasting me as I was elsewhere.

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    You're welcome. I was just posting the entire statute so folks could read through it if they wanted.

    Seem to me that by virtue of being an FFL lyou would already meet all the obligations of this statute as written. Feels like the local constabulary is over reaching a little bit here with the a/v recording, to me. Perhaps they are hoping to regulate the number of FFL's in their domain by placing the undue financial and technical burden on the FFL to record, and store every transaction.

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    This would be like a Police officer showing up with a state provided weed whacker to control my weeds.

    If the state is really concerned about guns getting into the wrong hands from ffls, perhaps they should look into providing crash barriers and gun safes instead.
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    Wouldn't this be in violation of this bit of law?

    https://law.justia.com/codes/colorad...n-29-11.7-102/

    2016 Colorado Revised Statutes
    Title 29 - Government - Local
    Miscellaneous
    Article 11.7 - Regulation of Firearms
    ? 29-11.7-102. Firearms database - prohibited
    Universal Citation: CO Rev Stat ? 29-11.7-102 (2016)

    (1) A local government, including a law enforcement agency, shall not maintain a list or other form of record or database of:

    (a) Persons who purchase or exchange firearms or who leave firearms for repair or sale on consignment;

    (b) Persons who transfer firearms, unless the persons are federally licensed firearms dealers;

    (c) The descriptions, including serial numbers, of firearms purchased, transferred, exchanged, or left for repair or sale on consignment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mb504 View Post
    Wouldn't this be in violation of this bit of law?

    https://law.justia.com/codes/colorad...n-29-11.7-102/
    Nice find. But it is Boulder, so they will do what they please and scream HOME RULE!!! (or whatever the preemptive thing is), since the precedent was set with their "assault weapons" ban. Or has that been struck down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Nice find. But it is Boulder, so they will do what they please and scream HOME RULE!!! (or whatever the preemptive thing is), since the precedent was set with their "assault weapons" ban. Or has that been struck down?
    The OP's quote-

    I am not in a Boulder but in the south metro area.

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    Guess I got a little off track reading the thread, with several references to Boulder. My bad. I guess the FFL is not who I was thinking it might be, then.

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    Thanks I am in Littleton. Thanks everyone but not being aholes. This really happend and seems to be an overreach. As stated the FFL can explain in person to customers.

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    Don't shoot the messenger.

    This appears to be a serious problem that he is making us aware of.
    It would be nice to know if any other FFL's have been advised and given cameras. And, if so, who is paying for them?
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