I Iike Ray's suggestion.
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I Iike Ray's suggestion.
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Pretty sure immediate family are excluded from the background check law. They can be in possession of them, without doing a transfer, while you still maintain ownership. Call it a "loan"...
18-12-112
(6) The provisions of this section do not apply to:
(b) A transfer that is a bona fide gift or loan between immediate family members, which are limited to spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles;
Last edited by hollohas; 05-16-2019 at 21:02.
That Liberty 24 gun safe is pretty decent. Bolting it down will make it a more secure installation.
Seen the Liberty Safelert? It's a smart puck on wifi that alerts to door opens, motion, and monitors humidity and temp. It has an external antenna. Supports up to 5 users, maybe that would give her peace of mind.
Could you store the safe locked (they do not have access) in a family members house? Sign a lease agreement to lease the space that the safe occupies.
Many storage places may prohibit firearms and ammo to be stored in their facilities.
Good idea, something like this and a camera on the safe. You would know the safe was opened and who did it.Originally Posted by battlemidget
Ah ... well if she's not going to be rational then there's really no option ... take the safe to your folks house and be done with it because she wants them out of the house. Period. So there is no option to keep them in the house that will work.
As hollohas pointed out, I was wrong about needing to transfer them so it should be as easy as loading the Liberty up and taking it down there.
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"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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Pretty sure you meant TL rated safe. U.L. rated is Underwriters Labratories which test RSCs(Residential Security Containers)
RobertB I'm sure I can order, deliver and install a TL30 safe that would make your wife comfortable with anything and everything she owns to be put into it! Unfortunately I have no used one at the moment and new ones are pricey....think 4 or 5 of those liberty safes!
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I don't imagine the wife has any worries that the kids will take an angle grinder to his current Liberty safe, so I don't think a more secure safe really solves anything.
As someone pointed out, if she isn't being rational about it, then logic is of no use.
For me, I'd simply point out that the current gun storage is completely secure from kids getting into it as long as they don't have the combo. Maybe add the SafeAlert and/or camera if extra reassurance is needed.
Sorry you are going thru this. I went thru something slightly similar where my mom didn't want me to bring a couple guns when I went to visit. Dad was looking forward to a trip to the shooting range. It hurt a little bit that my own mom didn't think I was smart enough to make sure things were safe. I was lucky in that it was just for a visit. Can't imagine how I'd react in your situation.
Last edited by DenverGP; 05-17-2019 at 01:50.
'Unless a law-abiding individual has a firearm for his or her own defense, the police typically arrive after it is too late. With rigor mortis setting in, they mark and bag the evidence, interview bystanders, and draw a chalk outline on the ground' - Judge Benitez , 2019, Duncan v. Becerra.
'One of the ordinary modes by which Tyrants accomplish their purpose without resistance is by disarming the people and making it an offense to keep arms.' Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840.
Simple solutions.
A-Change combo of safe, your the only one that knows it.
B-Raise your children properly.
If your worried about your own children breaking in to your safe and stealing your own property the problem lies with the parents, not the children.
Last edited by BPTactical; 05-17-2019 at 05:42.
The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...
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Also, I know you weren?t looking for any relationship advice and I wouldn?t pretend to try to understand the dynamics between the two of you but perhaps there are things beyond the whole firearms issue that you guys need to work on.
I?ve only had two wives so my experience is limited but both of them weren?t really into the same things I was into. I get that two people aren?t going to see eye to eye on everything and that people from different sides of the tracks can still be very much in love but marriage is also a little bit of give and take.
She doesn?t want guns in the house. Fine. You do want to have them around and enjoy them. Fine. The compromise is probably your current situation that they are around but locked up and out of sight.
Any time one half of a relationship wants 100% of control over the relationship eventually that relationship is likely doomed.
Sorry. I hope you guys get everything worked out.
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