Safe Storage?

[RobertB]

Given the recent STEM shooting, the fact that they lived down the street, and apparently broke into a gun safe (was it a shitty one? a locked cabinet? one of those crappy thin metal boxes? WTF knows?), my wife has become pretty intensely concerned about having guns in the house and my safe isn't safe enough for her, especially with the kids. My 6 year old was there, but I think he was only traumatized by the alarms and the cops "securing" them. He saw a cop a few days later and didn't seem too scared. I can appreciate the concern, but I think our safe is decent quality. We all like to think we won't raise nutcases. I'm trying to make this work out for all parties, but I don't know if there are any good options. Are there any kind of businesses that would secure safes? I don't think some random self storage facility would be adequate. Another option would be at my folks' up the street, but that would be suboptimal for a number of reasons if they even went for it. Still, it's less bad than a "give up a hobby and sell them" option. Even though I don't hardly ever shoot anymore, I'd still like to be able to. Any options?

Please no "ditch the bitch" or political bullshit. None of that's helpful.

[kwando]

What is her reasoning for not being safe enough? I will guess they had a cheap cabinet and not a fire/water safe. Show her videos of liberty safes, or step up the game and get a U.L. rated safe that banks and jewelers use.

[BushMasterBoy]

Sometimes craiglist has some old heavy duty safes for sale cheap. Wouldn't hurt to have a burglar alarm too. Help keep the whole house safe. Just add some surveillance cameras. If you have all 3, I could see a jury relieving you from a civil suit claim. Just my opinion .02 cents...

[Zundfolge]

Sometimes craiglist has some old heavy duty safes for sale cheap. Wouldn't hurt to have a burglar alarm too. Help keep the whole house safe. Just add some surveillance cameras.

I think those suggestions are good for protecting the guns from outsiders, but I think his wife's real concern is that their own crumb cruncher will flip out some day, get into the safe and get all mass-murdery.

Without knowing the level of your current safe(s) I can't tell if your wife's concerns are valid or not. If all you have is some cheap Walmart safe, then just upgrade to a Liberty or other higher quality safe and you should be fine (unless she's going to be completely unreasonable and will only accept complete removal from the house, in which case move them to your folk's place ... and then go through the stupid hoops of officially transferring all of them to your parents so that they become "their" guns lest you be violating our dumbass universal background check law).

As for the kids at the STEM school, I'd bet $10 that the one that stole the guns from the parent's safe had been trusted with the combination to the safe back when they thought their kid was sane.

[Gman]

I hadn't read that the guns were stolen from a safe. I just read that the 18 year old stole them from his parents. Where'd you find the info that a safe was broken into?

[RobertB]

What is her reasoning for not being safe enough? I will guess they had a cheap cabinet and not a fire/water safe. Show her videos of liberty safes, or step up the game and get a U.L. rated safe that banks and jewelers use.

It's a Liberty Revolution. This doesn't come from a place of rational informed concern so much as ...panic? She didn't like it before, I guess, but went along.

[RobertB]

I hadn't read that the guns were stolen from a safe. I just read that the 18 year old stole them from his parents. Where'd you find the info that a safe was broken into?

That was what I'd heard first, but all I'm seeing now is "stolen". You know how the stories morph over time.

I suppose I could pop down the street and ask, but I think that'd be more than a bit weird.

[ray1970]

It's a Liberty Revolution. This doesn't come from a place of rational informed concern so much as ...panic? She didn't like it before, I guess, but went along.

Challenge her to break into it. If she can crack it open tell her everything will go.

[Gman]

I found this where an unnamed source is referenced:

STEM School shooting suspects smashed into locked gun cabinet to steal weapons, source says

Cabinet does not equal 'safe', but then who knows about the "source" and whether the info could be trusted.

STEM shooting suspect stole weapons from parents, sources say

HIGHLANDS RANCH, Colo. — Devon Erickson, one of the suspects in the STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting, stole weapons from his parents, according to law enforcement sources.

The sources say Erickson’s parents had the guns locked up, but did not specifically say how the guns were secured.

[RobertB]

I don't disagree, and mentioned that in the OP. You almost never see well-written, accurate, and complete reporting. Like I said though, that really isn't the issue. This is the irrational "I'm putting my foot down" and the only options seem to be removal, but my aim is to do this and still retain ownership if possible.