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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Well, that article is 2 years old. And, yes, there is a high percentage of new residents from CA. But, they don't appear to be Obama-worshiping liberals.

    It's also not showing up in voter registrations. At least not in alarming numbers. And it sure as hell isn't reflected in the election outcomes. It appears that some, maybe even a majority of, Californians moving here are registering as Rs.
    So other than Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore that's good news (I'd make fun of them for the whole "young dude, old chick thing ... but my wife is almost 9 years older than me so...). While Rapid City is still #1 on our list, I happen to think that Coeur d'Alene is one of the most beautiful places on God's green earth so we'll see what happens. My inability to find a good job here in CS is definitely lighting the fire under the relocation bug as well (you can't swing a dead cat without hitting and unemployed graphic designer in The Springs ... sheesh).

    Quote Originally Posted by DOC View Post
    Why do we not have this in Colorado? We need it for gun laws.
    Jeebus, they're trying so hard to undermine TABOR and you want to add yet another layer of logic and reason? You tryin' to kill these idiots?
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    Some laws we want/need to last a long time, and not be subject to the flavor of the day.

    That's the same argument that my Dad gave me when I argued Term Limits with him back in the day.

    That's the same argument that our Representative Government is based on, is that we elect smart people to run our Government, so we don't have to deal with it or the minutia day by day.

    It's also a basis for the Bill of Rights, and the Amendments to the Constitution, that some Laws, or Ideas, are just too important to say but just once.

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    I agree, but haven't put any thought to where to draw the line.
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    I love this idea. The government should focus only on what is important and this forces them to prioritize. They should also have to regularly justify what they're doing and the tax dollars being spent to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iego View Post
    Some laws we want/need to last a long time, and not be subject to the flavor of the day.

    That's the same argument that my Dad gave me when I argued Term Limits with him back in the day.

    That's the same argument that our Representative Government is based on, is that we elect smart people to run our Government, so we don't have to deal with it or the minutia day by day.

    It's also a basis for the Bill of Rights, and the Amendments to the Constitution, that some Laws, or Ideas, are just too important to say but just once.

    -John
    We're not talking about state laws like murder, assault, etc... We're talking about state rules and regulations. Yes...some need to be kept and enforced, no doubt. But there are almost 10,000. I'm sure there's plenty of fat to be trimmed without any harm whatsoever to the well being of the state.
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    No, all laws passed by the legislature need to be sunset. 20 year max for safety stuff, 10 for all others, and should be set at time of legislation debate.

    Constitutional amendments would not expire, but should be able to be changed, added, deleted by super majority in both the legislature and general vote. 66 to 75%

    If a law is so important to the general populace, it could become permanent through a constitutional change vote.

    This should also apply to the US laws, but without a general populace vote. Permanent laws requiring a super majority to pass, change, delete, along with presidential signature.

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    In all reality, sunset provisions are not flawless. In situations like Colorado's, they would let long standing conservative laws by native Coloradans be wiped clean for a sudden California-esque progressive takeover, ala. 2018's election.

    What is truly missing is the 4th branch of a long term, successful republic: The janitorial. A branch that is incapable of the passage of anything; but checks the other three by the power of removal of precedence, regulation, and law. There is currently no substantive check on precedence which is why we have a judicial oligarchy, where appointed judges individually decide more about policy and law than any elected representative. A janitorial branch is the real solution. Everything doesn't need to sunset. Nor should some things wait a decade to do so.
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