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    Overreact much?

    And people wonder why their can be a negative connotation about religious based schooling.

    https://www.coloradoan.com/story/new...nk/1229190001/

    Do they think their has never been a box of condoms distributed in a high school before?

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    Our schools are ran by liberal peices of shit.
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    This is a charter school, which is not a religious school but a public school. The school's values are on their webpage...

    http://hs.libertycommon.org/about_us/virtues

    With prudence and temperance being at the top, I can see how the condom thing was probably a bad idea as a senior prank. This is one of those few schools out there that probably want the kids focused on learning and not having sex or mutilating their genitalia.


    They said it was a prank but was also meant as a subtle statement promoting safe sex after Liberty Common Schools and Liberty Common High School Headmaster Bob Schaffer protested House Bill 19-1032, the comprehensive human sexuality education bill that is awaiting Gov. Jared Polis' signature after passing the Senate on May 2.
    Trying to be activists, ZFG. If it's like the DougCo take-down it will be coordinated with Lib groups and only directed at Conservative leadership.

    That bill is a flaming piece of garbage, btw, and it doesn't take religious values to see that. We had a thread on it in politics.
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    Somebody sure dicked that up.
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    The students wanted to make a statement. So did the principal. The students learned a valuable lesson (or should have)...actions have consequences.
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    Why is the Principal's response appropriate?

    Who was injured? What property was damaged?

    Sounds more like somebody's scared cows were offended.

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    The cardinal virtues go back to Aristotle and Plato. They have nothing to do with religion per se, but are some of the philosophical foundations of Western Civilization.

    The student(s) failed to adhere to those values, and in a way which impacted students as young as 7th grade (12-13 years old?).

    That every single violation of these virtues would be placed in a Code of Conduct book (a la the parents asking what "rule" was broken) is not only a legalistic bit of sophistry, but ridiculous in expecting such a scope of things to be defined. Something need not be defined to impact and intersect with another thing which *is* defined. And while the thing defined might not be the specific thing violated as such, it can be violated in kind.

    This same argument is directly on the school page which Skip linked, insofar as its explanation of prudence:

    Of the several threats to freedom, bureaucracy ranks high on the list. So why do prosperous organizations, including entire nations, inevitably strangle themselves by the tentacles of freedom-crippling bureaucracy?

    Bureaucracy stems from a desire to formalize virtue. When a particular habit or policy fails to deliver order, the impulse of leaders, especially in a democracy, is to impose bigger and more comprehensive rules to make sure the mistake does not happen again.

    Over time, reliance on virtuous people yields to a dependency on virtuous rules, regulations, policies, checks, balances and systematic accountability. This is the essence of bureaucracy.

    In bureaucratic cultures, practical judgment and personal virtues are deemphasized. Praise and appreciation instead accrue to those who follow the rules and who go by the book.

    From there, the law itself comes to define public morality. “If it is legal,” bends the logic of a bureaucratic society, “it must be acceptable.”

    Freedom, however, thrives by prudence, a virtue predicated upon practical reason. It entails discernment of the true good surrounding every situation and the moral means of achieving it.

    Prudence is antithetic to bureaucracy. It elevates individual responsibility and secures liberty.

    St. Thomas Aquinas identified various parts of prudence. He characterized acquired prudence as perfected through the exercise of acts and lessons.

    Also, he wrote of gratuitous prudence which is infused and reinforced by virtuous habits, for example, those modeled by good parenting, religion, perhaps schooling.

    The Founding Fathers believed every man should share in the governing of America according to the free choice of his reason, and that it is proper for all self-governing citizens to possess the virtue of prudence. Abraham Lincoln spoke persistently about the necessity of prudence.

    It is a core American virtue about which Americans scarcely speak anymore. Yet, prudence is the most powerful and complete remedy for the disease of bureaucracy.

    Prudence promotes freedom which is why we rely on it, and speak often of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Sounds more like somebody's scared cows were offended.
    That led to a strange mental visual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    Our schools are ran by liberal peices of shit.

    This seems like more of a traditional conservative conflict than a liberal one to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    Our schools are ran by liberal peices of shit.
    One of my children attended Liberty Common. Neither it, nor its sister school Ridgeview Classical, are run by liberals. Liberty Common is one of the top performing high schools in the state.
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