Wow, just wow!

[Gman]

7th grade isn't "High School".

You're totally numb to the realities of the situation. We get it.

[.455_Hunter]

7th grade isn't "High School".

You're totally numb to the realities of the situation. We get it.

Please explain the "heinous" realities of the situation?

I have kids in public school right now (8th and 5th), and am fully aware of the challenges faced to keep kids on a good path. However, that doesn't mean I support blatant overreactions to situations that could be addressed more appropriately, like making the students involved give an apology to the rest of the school and complete some "community" service time.

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Please explain the "heinous" realities of the situation?

I have kids in public school right now (8th and 5th), and am fully aware of the challenges faced to keep kids on a good path. However, that doesn't mean I support blatant overreactions to situations that could be addressed more appropriately, like making the students involved give an apology to the rest of the school and complete some "community" service time.

If you believe "keep kids on a good path" and the casual promotion of promiscuity to minors is mutually exclusive, or an insignificant thing, then that is your personal belief/values.

There are parents who firmly disagree, and for now, have the option of enrolling in schools with different values/rules. One of those options is a charter which absolutely matters here even though you refuse to admit it. The charter is a public school, not a religious school. This school's value are not religious but, if you want the only alternative to public school being religious schools then complaining about a secular charter school with values is a great way to get there.

You've been posting as if this was done to your kids in a public school. These are parents and students who voluntarily made a different choice to comply with the school's values that are fundamentally different from a public school and knew that going in. These students were protesting the very values they agreed to uphold.

Preventing a senior from walking is a common disciplinary action for senior pranks gone wrong. It's the only recourse admin has at that point in the year without going ballistic, which isn't at all what happened here by any stretch of the imagination. These kids can move on with their lives without infamy if they could stop being activists. We all know the school didn't call the media over a "prank!" And this wasn't just a prank.

Copies of 'Guns and Ammo' have nothing to do with human development. Attempting to create a false allegory/straw man doesn't reinforce your argument.

There's a reason that condoms in the grocery store aren't between the candy and breakfast cereal.

Parents should be the ones to broach questions about sexuality from their children, when their children are mature enough to process the information. It's not appropriate for young adults/high school seniors to advance these questions under the guise of 'making a statement'.

If you want to host a private condom party in your home, that's your call. It's not appropriate in this school setting with the wide ranging student ages.

YES! A very moderate position, and one I respect, is that parents should be framing this conversation according to their values. If schools/admins that respect this are unable to keep conflicting values/beliefs out of the school then there are only two options left...

1. Forced degeneracy taught in public schools
2. Forced religious values taught in religious schools


Neither one of those recognize parents have control/input! And gone are the secular "positive values" school options.

Under #1, something like this is normal. Under #2, these students could have been expelled from certain schools.

I'm fine with #2 btw because my beliefs align with the school. We didn't go to a private school to demand the school change to suit our values. Like Bailey said, if my kids did this I'm fine with that punishment. Maybe when the kids get jobs they understand how to stay within the lines when it matters and not be activists.