Gun Free Zones are the real problem.

[Zundfolge]

The other issue is the opportunity cost of ALL of the victims and potential victims being disarmed by the policy.

We have no way of knowing how many of the victims were gun owners that would have been armed had it not been against policy. As such maybe this woman being armed wouldn't have mattered at all, but if one of the first victims would have been armed and engaged the shooter at the beginning of his spree, how many of the 12 dead may have survived?

[O2HeN2]

We have no way of knowing how many of the victims were gun owners that would have been armed had it not been against policy. As such maybe this woman being armed wouldn't have mattered at all, but if one of the first victims would have been armed and engaged the shooter at the beginning of his spree, how many of the 12 dead may have survived?

Bingo, I was about to post almost the same but you nailed it.

And what if it wasn't a gun free zone, would he have showed up to shoot up the place to begin with knowing full well that he might have lead coming his way before he even started out making his mark in history?

O2

[Gman]

We have no way of knowing how many of the victims were gun owners that would have been armed had it not been against policy. As such maybe this woman being armed wouldn't have mattered at all, but if one of the first victims would have been armed and engaged the shooter at the beginning of his spree, how many of the 12 dead may have survived?

It may not even have come to a conflict if he had the understanding that not everyone in the building was a non-threatening target.

If it's agreed that there are a lot more law abiding people than law breakers, an even distribution of firearms should assure that the bad guys don't run roughshod over everyone.

[Zundfolge]

The vast majority of these mass shooters are cowards acting out some twisted "God of Death" fantasy ... which is why so many of them stop killing innocents and turn their guns on themselves the instant they meet up with armed resistance.

Like the kid at New Life ... like the guy in Oregon (Clackamas Town Center) ... like the kid at Sandy Hook ...like Elliot Roger ... like the guy in Vegas (assuming we have any idea what really happened) ... like many others.

[Skip]

The vast majority of these mass shooters are cowards acting out some twisted "God of Death" fantasy ... which is why so many of them stop killing innocents and turn their guns on themselves the instant they meet up with armed resistance.

Like the kid at New Life ... like the guy in Oregon (Clackamas Town Center) ... like the kid at Sandy Hook ...like Elliot Roger ... like the guy in Vegas (assuming we have any idea what really happened) ... like many others.

Yes and this is where motives matter. I hate to give the monsters attention but this is why we should be objectively reviewing the manifestos.

When the monster writes or says...

I'll do this in a populated and confined place with no meaningful resistance, where I will have the power to decide who lives and who dies, to try and outdo the Columbine body count and be even more infamous

(or something to that effect) ...we should be paying attention.

A policy that forbids standard capacity magazines isn't addressing motive like that. A policy that provides resistance to this violence, does address it.

[Gman]

A policy that provides resistance to this violence, does address it.

"Violence never solves anything."