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    Default Does the news reflect what we die from?

    Does the news reflect what we die from?

    https://ourworldindata.org/does-the-...at-we-die-from

    Some epic analysis on how hard media has pushed certain narratives.




    Assuming suicide can be gun related, and terrorism is occasionally gun related, the gun related categories are inflated as...

    Actual 2.7%
    Google searches 22.8%
    Overall media 70.6%


    Media has attempted to inflate gun related deaths ~26x. They have succeeded in getting a 10x inflation judging by Google searches although I'm not sure how much of this is people searching to counter these narratives (could be a flaw in this analysis).

    Here is how the source illustrates that inflation...




    Something else troubling... Media is vastly under-reporting lifestyle-related (individual choices) deaths. Look at what they've done to heart disease, drug overdose, and diabetes.
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    Of course not.
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    Interesting...I've long suspected this but never seen it put together like this.

    Of course, everything the media says is generally inaccurate or false or intentionally misleading anyway to further a leftist agenda.
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    Disease is so boring compared to mass shootings. No drama in that. And disease will kill most of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    Disease is so boring compared to mass shootings. No drama in that. And disease will kill most of us.
    Absolutely but journalism has transformed into media which believes, and has no ethical issues with, advancing policies and politicians.

    They are no longer just story tellers but overt advocates. Yes, this changed with Rathergate, they previously had to hide this.

    So it?s completely reckless to advance a policy that will save little lives (or negative savings when we look critically at gun control) instead of policies that could save millions of lives.
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    The media has always reported topics of interest. There's never been a day in our history that the page one headline is "Bob suffers heart attack in his home at age 87!". So while the statistics may be true, the correlation is not and the presumption that it's a recent trend is also likely gross exaggerated at best.

    ETA: in the 1920s and 1930s for instance, do you think the media was more enthralled in reporting on organized crime and bank heists, or detailed and selective reporting every time "random" individuals literally starved during the great depression, which was inordinately far more common?

    People don't care about "people". They want drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    People don't care about "people". They want drama.
    The idea that the press reports the "facts" has been mistaken since Ben Franklin started his newspaper. Facts are boring and leave little to the imagination. What the press has "reported" has always been a form of infotainment. Ted Turner just codified it when he launched CNN.

    BTW - Those are interesting graphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama View Post
    The idea that the press reports the "facts" has been mistaken since Ben Franklin started his newspaper. Facts are boring and leave little to the imagination. What the press has "reported" has always been a form of infotainment. Ted Turner just codified it when he launched CNN.

    BTW - Those are interesting graphs.
    I'm personally fine with a little editorializing and massaging to gain attention/readership. I think that's expected.

    Historically, writers also had to "write down" to the people because they often had a level of education/intellectual capacity that the average folk just didn't have. That tends to water down the message as well.

    But what we have here is dedication to an alternate reality. It's no wonder people who trust and consume MSM have a completely different view of the country/world.


    Quote Originally Posted by bczandm View Post
    The numbers shown are good numbers and displayed well. Over 600,000 people die from heart disease in the US each year. I know because I was a few hours away from being a statistic. It's the #1 cause of death in the US. The number one self inflicted cause of death is poisoning if you lump drugs and alcohol deaths together, about 150,000 per year and growing at a rapid rate.

    The press has it so wrong.
    I'm glad you made it!!!

    And the attention shift from the top killers discounts the risk. We've all had friends/family who passed entirely too young.
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    The numbers shown are good numbers and displayed well. Over 600,000 people die from heart disease in the US each year. I know because I was a few hours away from being a statistic. It's the #1 cause of death in the US. The number one self inflicted cause of death is poisoning if you lump drugs and alcohol deaths together, about 150,000 per year and growing at a rapid rate.

    The press has it so wrong.

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    "media" is simply a way to sell advertising.

    The more eyes or ears, the higher the rates.

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