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    And here I was just bitching about my commute. You guys rock, seriously I mean that.

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    My understanding is that the part of the road that failed was designed and built by CDOT on a contract prior to the contract that leased the road for 50 years. Not sure if a CDOT engineer or consultant engineer designed the structure. CDOT does not have warranties on projects, so the contractor that built the structure is off the hook. CDOT tested, inspected and accepted the work of that contractor.

    This is why CDOT will be paying for the repairs and reimbursing the toll company for lost revenue. CDOT leased them a defective structure.

    No conspiracies, no corruption, just incompetence somewhere in the design, building or inspection of that structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    This is why CDOT will be paying for the repairs and reimbursing the toll company for lost revenue. CDOT leased them a defective structure.

    No conspiracies, no corruption, just incompetence somewhere in the design, building or inspection of that structure.
    "CDOT" doesn't pay, the taxpayers do. Way to protect the taxpayers, CDOT. Winning!
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    I know, I know, but I say CDOT so much it just comes out naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    My understanding is that the part of the road that failed was designed and built by CDOT on a contract prior to the contract that leased the road for 50 years. Not sure if a CDOT engineer or consultant engineer designed the structure. CDOT does not have warranties on projects, so the contractor that built the structure is off the hook. CDOT tested, inspected and accepted the work of that contractor.

    This is why CDOT will be paying for the repairs and reimbursing the toll company for lost revenue. CDOT leased them a defective structure.

    No conspiracies, no corruption, just incompetence somewhere in the design, building or inspection of that structure.
    Thank you for clarifying.

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    You know, CDOT's less than transparent handling of the 36 privatization along with the way this state minimized and disregarded its constituents during the 2012 legislative session were the main factors behind my taking early retirement from "The DOT" in '13.
    I just couldn't stomach the way this state was conducting business.
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    I predict Boulder will be getting rail service in the very near future. Open up your wallets, Jared is hungry.

    "No rail transit options exist between Boulder and Denver, though tracks are in place. Similarly, no rail alternative to highway vehicle travel exists between Denver and Colorado Springs. Gov. Jared Polis has said he favors creation of better alternatives to vehicle travel as the state’s population grows."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    You know, CDOT's less than transparent handling of the 36 privatization along with the way this state minimized and disregarded its constituents during the 2012 legislative session were the main factors behind my taking early retirement from "The DOT" in '13.
    I just couldn't stomach the way this state was conducting business.
    Wise.

    This isn't true privatization the more I look into it, it seems closer to Corporatism, where a select group gets the profit and the taxpayer gets the risk/losses. I doubt very much the general public understands these deals other than they are being charged to be able to use roadways that they've paid to build (for generations now).

    Oh sure, it's just the "express lane," but we all know what that means and how it impacts traffic.

    Very different from E-470 but branded the same for the public with ExpressToll.

    The only change I would support to TABOR would be to consider "fees" and "tolls" as taxes if they are coming from gov or gov contractors.
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    It brings me great joy to use the built-in loop hole to enjoy free toll lane usage on 36 especially.
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