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    Life straws, water filters were on sale, about half off, picked up a couple.

    So far that is it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels View Post
    Is the $55 their standard discount, or is it a Prime Day discount - I didn't see it marked as Prime Day, an extra 30% off at check-out.
    Thanks!
    Mine shows as a “deal of the day”, and thus 31% off. Anecdotally, I’ve never seen a (decent) circulator that cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    What sort of cameras do you use and what sort of storage device?
    I use an older blade server as my storage/BI (dedicated only to cameras) with 2TB raid. Even running quite a few, it doesn't consume more than 30% of system resources at any time.

    For cameras, it's a mix. Mostly chinese P.O.E. largely from Amazon (Jidetech - $39 possible, Sunba - $250ish, etc.) some PTZ, but they are not internet connected - all segregated into their own POE lan. (Don't internet connect any cameras, period, they are the #1 hacking entry point). The server - which has multiple NIC's of course, is internet connected through a separate interface, and can present video/pictures etc. from these non-internet cameras through the Blue Iris app / web interface.

    For laypeople,
    POE = Power Over Ethernet, it means you don't run power to any camera, you just have to make sure your network cable makes it there. Special routers "inject" power into spare wires of the network cable - and it can power well over 100' away on most cameras. It makes installation much easier and makes them more weatherproof.
    NIC = Network Interface, e.g. servers have multiple network cards/network ports, so one network port plugs into your camera router (which has no internet) and the computer treats that as network #1, your other network port plugs into your regular router/gateway, your computer treats that as network #2 (which has internet), and they are segregated from each other. You can also get this by buying network cards and putting them into the PC expansion slots on the motherboard of a regular desktop.
    ....so even if the server is hacked, they can't access the cameras, because they are not, in any way, internet connected - worst case, archived recorded files would be exposed in severe "nation state" style hacks.
    ...yet, Blue Iris (server) can still send out notifications to your phone including screenshots, you can access BI through your phone, etc.... and B.I. is going to be inordinately harder to hack than the physical cameras, by many, many orders of magnitude.
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    Looking to install a NAS. No Prime Day deals on any NAS system I was interested in, nor the HDD's. Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    I use an older blade server as my storage/BI (dedicated only to cameras) with 2TB raid. Even running quite a few, it doesn't consume more than 30% of system resources at any time.

    For cameras, it's a mix. Mostly chinese P.O.E. largely from Amazon (Jidetech - $39 possible, Sunba - $250ish, etc.) some PTZ, but they are not internet connected - all segregated into their own POE lan. (Don't internet connect any cameras, period, they are the #1 hacking entry point). The server - which has multiple NIC's of course, is internet connected through a separate interface, and can present video/pictures etc. from these non-internet cameras through the Blue Iris app / web interface.

    For laypeople,
    POE = Power Over Ethernet, it means you don't run power to any camera, you just have to make sure your network cable makes it there. Special routers "inject" power into spare wires of the network cable - and it can power well over 100' away on most cameras. It makes installation much easier and makes them more weatherproof.
    NIC = Network Interface, e.g. servers have multiple network cards/network ports, so one network port plugs into your camera router (which has no internet) and the computer treats that as network #1, your other network port plugs into your regular router/gateway, your computer treats that as network #2 (which has internet), and they are segregated from each other. You can also get this by buying network cards and putting them into the PC expansion slots on the motherboard of a regular desktop.
    ....so even if the server is hacked, they can't access the cameras, because they are not, in any way, internet connected - worst case, archived recorded files would be exposed in severe "nation state" style hacks.
    ...yet, Blue Iris (server) can still send out notifications to your phone including screenshots, you can access BI through your phone, etc.... and B.I. is going to be inordinately harder to hack than the physical cameras, by many, many orders of magnitude.
    Thank you. I've been wanting home security cameras that I can monitor remotely but have been very reluctant to buy ANY of the mainstream internet connected versions. Your information has lead me directly in the direction I have been looking to go. It's exactly what I wanted to do but couldn't find any resource to help me get started.

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    I love amazon because my USPS delivery person is an alcoholic and about 30 percent of the time she fails to deliver my packages by the guaranteed delivery date. Thanks to amazon and day drinking I managed to get a $350 car battery for free, among other things over the past two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Thank you. I've been wanting home security cameras that I can monitor remotely but have been very reluctant to buy ANY of the mainstream internet connected versions. Your information has lead me directly in the direction I have been looking to go. It's exactly what I wanted to do but couldn't find any resource to help me get started.
    Not a problem. If you have any questions at any time, let me know. I used to use related things prior to BI (Vitamin D, for one) but at this point, it's compatibility is impressive. I don't even check if POE cameras are compatible anymore, they just are. Lots of advanced functionality you can do as well, especially if you have the CPU processing. Moving POE's based on motion crossing other zones, for starters. For example, I have one PTZ that will watch the front door (an otherwise restricted and useless view) only when another fixed camera sees someone cross the barriers that lead toward the door. I also have another area send a doorbell sound to my phone when a vehicle turns into my driveway. You do need to have some skill or at least decent amounts of time to research how to do those advanced type of things, but for basics (recording and saving en mass any motion event from multiple cameras) it's not that hard to setup.

    If the drive way thing ain't impressive, I live out in the sticks of Montrose. It's like half a mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Looking to install a NAS. No Prime Day deals on any NAS system I was interested in, nor the HDD's. Shame.
    Saw a couple of Synology NAS on Prime today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Saw a couple of Synology NAS on Prime today.
    Yeah, I saw those, but it didn't look like there was any sort of Prime Day discount on them.

    Does the Prime Day discount show up at the article page, or at checkout? I went so far as to add a Synology 6-bay NAS and 4 4Tb WD Red drives to my cart and didn't see any price change.
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    Sorry. I own a couple of Synology boxes so I recognized them showing up as a Prime Day deal, but I didn't read any of the details since I'm not needing one.
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