Shooting at California festival kills 3; suspect is dead

[Ridge]

With three dead and fifteen wounded that implies at least eighteen people were shot. (Although sometes wounded are "I fell down running away and twisted an ankle). It sounds like he went through the fence and started shooting indiscriminately. Let's not pretend it wasn't a cliche "mass shooting". He just won't be as infamous as some others. Bending and manipulating perceptions are problems in both sides of this issue.

Wouldn't most mass shootings that the media cares about ones with indiscriminate targeting of victims?

[Gman]

With three dead and fifteen wounded that implies at least eighteen people were shot. (Although sometes wounded are "I fell down running away and twisted an ankle). It sounds like he went through the fence and started shooting indiscriminately. Let's not pretend it wasn't a cliche "mass shooting". He just won't be as infamous as some others. Bending and manipulating perceptions are problems in both sides of this issue.

I never said an indiscriminate group wasn't shot, but thanks for projecting. I read a lot, and what I find interesting is what is chosen to be repeated and elevated to the public. I also find it interesting and alarming to see how our lexicon is modified to promote an agenda and emotional 'steering'. Words mean something, and yet I never hear of any pushback.

I think this is a result of getting more miles on life's odometer. You notice how society has changed over your lifetime.

[KevDen2005]

Um... could someone edify me as to why they handcuffed the dead?

Genuine question.



Edit : maybe he was mostly dead.

In the event the guy isn't actually dead and adrenaline pumped officers missed that

he could have been still alive while waiting for medical care,

and officers aren't doctors and not allowed to determine death, therefore the suspect is in custody until medical professionals want handcuffs removed

[ChickNorris]

In the event the guy isn't actually dead and adrenaline pumped officers missed that

he could have been still alive while waiting for medical care,

and officers aren't doctors and not allowed to determine death, therefore the suspect is in custody until medical professionals want handcuffs removed

Ok. Thanks

[Gman]

Could be for similar reasons that they issue traffic citations to people who've died in auto accidents.

Seems to me this would be for legal reasons including any 'at fault' insurance claims for survivors/beneficiaries.

[JohnnyDrama]

For an interesting take on things...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1548900

Or maybe it's the same thing we discuss here.

[Gman]

Wouldn't most mass shootings that the media cares about ones with indiscriminate targeting of victims?

Particularly children. It makes the information more emotionally charged.

[zteknik]

The Gilroy police chief just reported the the firearm used was a "SKS, an AK-47 type assault weapon, purchased legally in Nevada...".

Prayers up for the victims and families.

As figured, the chief is a dolt. The only thing the sks is close to an ak is caliber. He needs more education..
Prayers out to those harmed.

[Eric P]

I had fun trolling FB today. Dismissing all emotion and stating, well, this time we will surrender more rights in the name of a 6 year old...

I've become so numb to the news I don't care about the body count or who the victims were, I just care about what gun laws will follow.

[Irving]

Perhaps it's time for a little bit of introspection on your part.