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    Best picture ever.

    Hey do you think there is a single flat earther who owns/tows a trailer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Even your old Cummins probably costs double to maintain compared to a gasser. What?s that thing hold? Fifteen quarts of oil? Also, I?m coming up on 125K miles and haven?t touched my fuel filter yet. Can any diesel go that long without a fuel filter?

    And like you mentioned the newer ones require you to buy special bottled urine to dump in the exhaust. What does that stuff cost?
    The oil changes are more expensive because I use 3x the oil. which I do myself so not that bad...$70ish. Fuel filters are cheap; I change it once a year along with the rest of my vehicles both gas and diesel. The cost isn't that much especially compared to the maintenance costs of timing belt replacements, sensor issues, etc. Over the long haul, the service life on my 5.9 is vastly longer than a gas V8...I'll be dead and buried long before my truck. The new diesel issues really revolve around the EGR (soot recirculation) system, which does a lot of damage to the engine resulting in really high failure rates and high repair costs...really sucks because otherwise they are pretty cool. I would be annoyed about the DEF too; that's a stupid cost. It's no wonder why so many people disable all that junk.
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    Here is what I did to solve the comute cost and wear and tear. I got a Yaris for commuting, and the $ saved on milage and fuel pays for the yaris. My 05 burb is at 109k right now, tranny is good front end needs love, minor crap needs tlc. But I dont really tow.

    I can see wanting only 1 car, and if that is what you want its your choice. I can also see getting a newer car that is posh and nice and quiet and makes long trips seem easy and pleasant. ( the wife and kid have a 201x cars and they rule in the NVH department).

    But it sounds like you want to pay to get reliability here, and are tired of maintaining the burb. I get it, I got rid of the 2011 Sienna with a song in my hart, I had enough of buying new run flats every 20k, and brake changes after a panic stop. My dad got rid of his Montana minivan after the trsns soenoid went bad, it was old, he just had all fluids changend and the cooling system serviced and the thing had 70k miles on it, but enough was enough.
    But remember this will cost you and assuming 13k mi a year and a couple of tows your new truck will start having issues in 10 years or so, probably sensors or trans.
    Your call, your choic, your money. Let us know what you choose.

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    Well, I think you've already sold yourself on the little engine that could.

    I hope it does well for you.

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    Sort of back on topic. I had a little time to kill one day at a local Ford dealership so found myself browsing the inventory of new F150s. The first thing I noticed was you couldn?t find a window sticker under about $54K. Some of the fancier ones were well into the upper $60k range. Anyhow, this dealership had tons of trucks and I think I saw one of them with the V8. Just about every one on the lot was one of the turbo V6 models. Seems to be the way things are heading I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Sort of back on topic. I had a little time to kill one day at a local Ford dealership so found myself browsing the inventory of new F150s. The first thing I noticed was you couldn?t find a window sticker under about $54K. Some of the fancier ones were well into the upper $60k range. Anyhow, this dealership had tons of trucks and I think I saw one of them with the V8. Just about every one on the lot was one of the turbo V6 models. Seems to be the way things are heading I guess.
    You can get into a 5 liter 4x4 supercrew (base) for 38k or so, but they aren't very common. Of 61 trucks on a nearby lot, 2 were the v8.

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    My 2016 Mercedes GL 450 SUV had a 3.0l bi-turbo V6 that required premium fuel. It made an insane amount of power and torque for the displacement, but the turbo lag wasn't fun and the 7-speed transmission never seemed to be in the best gear for the demand. The best mpg I could get on road trips was about 21 and it had a 26 gallon fuel tank.

    I just drove from home to Moab, UT and averaged 23 mpg in my 5.7l Ram 1500. It was comfortable, quiet, and effortless. I pay less to fill my 33 gallon tank since it isn't premium and get better mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Sort of back on topic. I had a little time to kill one day at a local Ford dealership so found myself browsing the inventory of new F150s. The first thing I noticed was you couldn?t find a window sticker under about $54K. Some of the fancier ones were well into the upper $60k range. Anyhow, this dealership had tons of trucks and I think I saw one of them with the V8. Just about every one on the lot was one of the turbo V6 models. Seems to be the way things are heading I guess.
    2.7 is cheaper then the 5.0 and the 3.5 has better performance and economy. Also forced induction tends to do better up here in our thin air. Don't get me wrong I am all for displacement, but these ecoboost motors are fun to drive IMHO.

    Also FWIW I run 87 in my 2.7 and never have any problems although like I said before I don't tow much and never up the mountains yet.

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    I miss the turbo Escape company car I used to drive. I miss forced induction altogether actually. Nothing like a turbo in the hills.
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    I have a 3.5 liter eco boost and pull a travel trailer. The trailer weight is about 20% below the trucks rated capacity. We go about 10-12 times a year, usually in the mountains. It pulls fine, but what I always worry about is coming back down the hill. My buddy pulls with a 3/4 ton diesel with an engine brake. That would be super nice, but then there is all the additional expense associated with diesel. They are more expensive to maintain and repair. I would prefer a 3/4 ton to tow, but my biggest issue is it would not fit in the garage, and I would rather drive the 1/2 ton other 345 days a year.

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