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    Not a Dude ChickNorris's Avatar
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    I don't usually make this flavor of post but I'll bite...

    Someone can stand outside & wave about, bang & shout anything they want to try & convince me to allow them entry but I'm not opening my door & certainly not under such a thinly veiled pretense.

    Note* the camera did it's job right there.

    To be clear, nothing I have done or would do, would ever warrant a sanctioned surprise entry by the 'Police' at my home. That now said & secure in this position, I don't care who is trying to come into my home under any guise, wholly uninvited I'm NOT going to actively assist. I will make a call to Police if possible, I will take a predetermined safe/covered position, I will wait for the threat to subside & I will be armed all while doing so. Simply put, not by the hair of my chinny chin chin.

    Honestly, I'm far more concerned about the consequences from choices I'd have to make if someone gained illegal entry into my home after making an announcement. I don't need to defend stuff. An announcement of any kind means they know or assume I AM in my HOME. The way I see it, that erases any doubt of their probable intent & the assumed aim is no longer an essentially benign burglary.

    Specific to the link: those boys did not come prepared for a gunfight & likely would have scattered if presented with the reality of a 12 gauge. But, I'm not one to shoot a group of stupid boys on a porch for sport.
    Again, that camera did it's job as I could easily prove 'fear for life' from that video. If they had gained entry it would have been wholly different & even while in the legal right, a bad day for all involved, period. While prepared to, I sincerely hope I never have to make that kind of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    To be clear, nothing I have done or would do, would ever warrant a sanctioned surprise entry by the 'Police' at my home.
    That was before Red Flag laws.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    That was before Red Flag laws.
    Doesn't change the truth with regard to MY conduct.
    My airstream has been stolen by dopers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    Doesn't change the truth with regard to MY conduct.
    I've also never done anything to warrant a sanctioned surprise. That doesn't mean I'm not aware that they can and do happen, and it doesn't mean I'm not concerned by it.

    You're one pissed off call from a vengeful/paranoid/insane neighbor, ex, relative, whatever. And I'm not even talking about red-flag.

    E.g. remember the walmart call about the guy "waiving a gun around and pointing it at people"? The "suspect" was on his cell phone, holding a bb-gun from the walmart shelf, pointed at the floor when LEO rounded the corner and shot him. He had never pointed it at a person at any time prior, etc, or done anything other than hold it while on the phone.

    Or the hotel where someone claimed a guy was "pointing a gun at people" and LEO murdered him in the hallway?

    Unfortunately, honesty isn't a common trait when a a lot of people call 911 to report something they find distasteful. Exaggeration is.

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