Why I Hate LE Shouting "POLICE!" and Expecting Immediate Recognition

[Bailey Guns]

The internet commando in me fantasizes about taking the AR with me out the back door and walking around to where the 8-ish criminals racially and/or socially oppressed yutes were attempting to force entry into my home. After that it just looks like a Tarantino movie.

[cstone]

... After that it just looks like a Tarantino movie.

With or without the flamethrower?

And those yutes were doing an incredibly bad impersonation of a determined dynamic entry. The proper response from inside would need to be a loud and vigorous, "I can't hear you! Sound off like you have a pair ladies! I've heard more enthusiasm from Miley Cyrus fans! Make it loud enough so that the first responding officers can hear you!"

[Duman]

Land shark?

Candygram ?

[Great-Kazoo]

Candygram ?

For Mongo.

[MrAK]

For Mongo.

Mongo like candy.

[CS1983]

While the security door was a cheap variety and either without a deadbolt or whatever the case was, I think it provided a warning system given the noise of its opening. It also slowed the group down by a little bit.

Camera did its job, too.

I agree with Skip that the mere shouting of “Police!” is insufficient and should not be relied upon as indicative of announcing a legitimate presence.

I also agree with Zundfolge that dynamic entry is overused. While I recognize and greatly appreciate the target law enforcement paints on itself for the furthering of public safety, I think it has morphed into something which is too dangerous for all involved with very little reward for the risk presented.

[BPTactical]

Mongo just pawn in game of life

[hunterhawk]

Uhhh they werent saying Police... they were saying POlice... big difference. They were also throwing out the n word and saying open it... pretty clear they werent cops if you were on the other side of that door... also the police dont use crappy tools to get into houses. And i could go on

[Irving]

Well, seems like the police might designate just one guy to do the shouting, rather than a chorus of afterthoughts.

[Skip]

So like many of you, I am pretty straight when it comes to the law. The most egregious thing you'll find on me is speeding tickets the last of which was 2010. I do not fear LE or anticipate negative contact.

Here is what I fear...

- I'm sleeping, my family is sleeping (others depend on me)
- Hear loud noises
- Go to investigate loud noises
- Hear "POLICE!" (I'm unincorporated, we don't have police, but maybe they shot "SHERIFFS!")
- ?!??!?!

I have multiple cams recording everything. They may or not provide fast enough info on what is happening. They may have been disabled; in the front one is highly visible and one is not.

At best I have a firearm in my hand and have not fired

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/30/us/so...lle/index.html


At worst I have seconds to decide if the individuals trying to break in are violent criminals or decent guys on the job who got an address wrong or something else is off.

It's obvious this crew was not professional. It's also been obvious to me traveling the country that some LEOs do not sound, or at times act, professional. "POLE-EESE!" is exactly how some LEOs sound in parts of this country.

A very small amount of coordination, planning, and commonly available items (LE marked clothing, fake badges, etc.) and this could be much more professional and fool a lot of people. Of course, that effort would correspond to reward but I don't trust the criminal's ability to correctly evaluate incentives--this is why I carry a gun.

Keep in mind many criminals know more about how LE operates than the avg Joe. They've seen it up close on a regular basis.