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    Good post skip. In case anyone isn't keyed in, I was broadly referring to problems changing, e.g. not limited to the field of guns or mental health.

    It's easy to think of the "good" things of the good'ol'days, but we forget the bad. And who knows what influence that bad had on society either way.

    Remember how everyone had a "drunk angry dad" and domestic violence against kids/spouses was pretty common place? Remember when teen pregnancies was at an all time high, and sexual abuses were never reported?

    Some will say that the lack of "beating kids" is the problem now, but that arguments made with the blinders on.

    I would say a problem that a lot of kids have is that they lack a guide for emotional range, because they haven't experienced real problems. Whether or not that correlates into this bigger issue I'm not going to presume; but it sure does elevate the level of Histrionics and psuedo histrionics, and annoying bitching about things. I CANT FIND A PARKING SPOT WAAAA.

    Basically we're all capable of the same emotional range, if a person hasn't ever experienced real problems in 20+ years of existence to compare their future problems against, then their emotional range skews from 1:100 over retarded garbage. They can act and feel like their kid just died if someone casually and politely rejects them on a date, for instance.

    So ironically, what if one of the causes of these increases in issues isn't due to us being worse than the past, but actually... being better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    Good post skip. In case anyone isn't keyed in, I was broadly referring to problems changing, e.g. not limited to the field of guns or mental health.

    It's easy to think of the "good" things of the good'ol'days, but we forget the bad. And who knows what influence that bad had on society either way.

    Remember how everyone had a "drunk angry dad" and domestic violence against kids/spouses was pretty common place? Remember when teen pregnancies was at an all time high, and sexual abuses were never reported?

    Some will say that the lack of "beating kids" is the problem now, but that arguments made with the blinders on.

    I would say a problem that a lot of kids have is that they lack a guide for emotional range, because they haven't experienced real problems. Whether or not that correlates into this bigger issue I'm not going to presume; but it sure does elevate the level of Histrionics and psuedo histrionics, and annoying bitching about things. I CANT FIND A PARKING SPOT WAAAA.

    Basically we're all capable of the same emotional range, if a person hasn't ever experienced real problems in 20+ years of existence to compare their future problems against, then their emotional range skews from 1:100 over retarded garbage. They can act and feel like their kid just died if someone casually and politely rejects them on a date, for instance.

    So ironically, what if one of the causes of these increases in issues isn't due to us being worse than the past, but actually... being better?
    I think a hallmark of good parenting is producing children that are "well adjusted." Which I take to mean can handle most of life's challenges in spite of not having experienced that specific challenge. 100 years ago kids were getting married at 16, promptly having children, and supporting them with work. They weren't trained for all those challenges and didn't break.

    We sent 17+ year olds into battle with 11lbs bolt guns to face gas and arty attacks. How many came back as mass shooters?

    And that's the remarkable thing and a great point... I've talked to people who hate God because of the horrible things that have happened in their lives. I don't agree but understand their anger/grief. They still aren't mass shooters.

    These kids are inexplicably lost, or intentionally destroyed, mostly without significant challenge. In some cases evil has filled a vacuum.

    Another thing to consider... When a human takes a course of action to achieve a stated goal, that is not necessarily mental illness. If a racist murders people of the background he claims to hate, that is not mental illness. That is a rational behavior according to his values.

    If someone has committed a mass shooting in hopes of advancing gun control or gaining notoriety, again, perfectly rational behavior.

    It's evil.

    Tomorrow I think Trump will try to frame this as mental illness and a lot of people will support that but I'm not sure that does anything for us. There is simply too much to be gained from mass shootings for a variety of people for this trend to stop unless we start fighting back (CCW, eliminate GFZs, etc). If he calls for gun control, it will be the same as calling for more mass shootings.

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