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    You said what you believe, and one can deduce you believed the Constitution was in effect at some point in your life. OxArt is just saying you believed incorrectly since the thing you didn’t believe was already a reality before your lifetime.
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    The Constitution has been eroded over time, as governments tend to extend their reach over time. The erosion has been significant and picked up pace since the 1920s.

    What I didn't expect was what is becoming a total disregard, without any response in opposition, in my lifetime.

    Now can folks stop trying to think they know what I believe, when I believed it, and whether or not it was "correct"? I feel like i'm on the 'psychic hotline'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    With regards to black guns, read Kavanaugh's dissent in Heller II
    I read that as very good, right?

    But it underscores my concern... We again see the Court affirming 2A in an important and individual way. Take AWBs and mag bans off the table for a second... Every American has a fundamental and individual RTKBA some gun. How does this explain NYC? How does this explain permits in greater NY? Then we have the patchwork of laws in big cities and CA that culminate in a near-absolute prohibition on gun ownership. And certainly one outside the home which is also unConstitutional.

    Even if the Court gets it right, lower governments are in rebellion and the Feds/DoJ can't enforce the law. What would DoJ do? Arrest and charge a blue city DA for prosecuting a gun owner? Never going to happen! Best we can do is spend hundreds of thousands getting that case through the system and his conviction overturned. We can't win this way!

    Much easier to deny Cert going forward as not to test the authority of USSC.
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    When the government can force you to buy a product (health insurance) or pay a penalty, and SCOTUS twists it into a Constitutional "tax"...
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    Wait, there are still people who think that politicians (of any party affiliate) are actually concerned about our freedoms? No wonder they keep getting away with it.

    "Our guy is screwing them out of their freedom but hey, at least we got our item pushed through even if it cost "their side" but eff them, they're scum who deserved it!"

    Lather, rinse & repeat as necessary with "other" party in power until we're all completely without freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    The Constitution has been eroded over time, as governments tend to extend their reach over time. The erosion has been significant and picked up pace since the 1920s.
    I don't "put thoughts in your head" but your belief is inferred in your post: e.g. you tend to think the constitution was followed more a few years ago.

    I don't notice a change in the pace of "erosion" it just takes different faces. DRASTIC "revisions" were undertaken in the 1700's on many of the BOR, but more things (e.g. rights) were outright ignored then far more then now. I'm not going to pretend like we have "fewer" rights in 2019. The funny thing is if you went back in time about 150 years, you'd probably think your constitutional rights were even less respected than they are now.

    That's what I'm saying - there isn't "erosion" when judges have stepped around it since the inception of our country. There's been no check or balance on the judicial power, so your "rights" have just been beliefs inside of your head since the founding of our country, but they haven't really existed outside of mere beliefs; judges have always done what they believed to be "right" irrespective of restraint whether we are talking 1700's, 1920's (Scopes trial), or today.

    The system operates more on what society will tolerate - or not - in the given moment. And it's always been that way. We've never had "rights".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    The system operates more on what society will tolerate - or not - in the given moment. And it's always been that way. We've never had "rights".
    I like that OxArt. My seventh grade English teacher would be proud....

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