I bought some sheets from Ebay. Now I keep seeing articles about Epstein.
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I bought some sheets from Ebay. Now I keep seeing articles about Epstein.
Per Ardua ad Astra
I've seen it happen with a new phone. We purposely had a conversation in front of it and immediately got ads. We did this 3 or 4 different times
You're correct.Originally Posted by Skip
It is their business to know your online footprint, your purchasing trends / history, your current search pattern, and your search history, and all kinds of other metrics.
The search engines and Microsoft and Apple (among others) sell this information to retailers and websites, and they use it themselves in the hopes you'll click on the adverts they place on the websites you're browsing. Google Analytics is one example of a data gathering service. They also know that Americans are impulse buyers with credit cards, if they can present adverts very quickly after your initial searches they stand a good chance of getting paid for that sale directly, or if you go to a brick-and-mortar they still get paid, indirectly but less $$.
Now think about the size and speed of the database they're using, and then think about the network size and speed, and the server farms size and speed of those servers because they're doing this to billions of people every second of single day. The algorithms are incredible.
Last edited by roberth; 08-13-2019 at 20:17.
The tech doesn't impress me because I work with it. It's how they are getting the hooks into me that is impressive which is more logistical.
Yes.
But let's keep in mind what is being sent and how it can be used. My IP address alone doesn't identify a social media account under the name "John Doe." They would have to record the login to know that. A person going to FB.com isn't sending their credentials. There is a cookie on the device that stores that info. So a service would have to read foreign cookies in order to piece together IP and accounts. This would associate the device, account, and IP.
But then how would a service know the device? MAC IDs sure but then they have to read IP config to get that because (AFAIK) MAC IDs aren't sent over the internet (but are available on local networks). Now if I joined a WiFi that I didn't own (which I never do) of course they could get this. But then then they wouldn't be able to make the association if I used a network they didn't own (Verizon LTE)--which assumes Verizon isn't selling my info and I don't think I can assume that.
I wonder how much of this is actually legal. Sure, you can sign away your rights under a vague ToS but that doesn't nullify state/Fed laws.
Far less remarkable if you give consent to use that service and install an app that does it. I didn't consent to anyone listening to a convo at my dentist's office. I didn't install an app that consents to constant surveillance.
This is my practice as well. My work laptop is for work only. I don't even visit this board with it!
What happened yesterday was on multiple devices. My iPhone then my personal PC. Since I use my work laptop from home, I have to assume whatever associates IP and device info can associate that device.
Last edited by Skip; 08-14-2019 at 11:02.
Always eat the vegans first
What is theoretically illegal/legal based on a reading of a law isn't all that relevant. If a judge isn't willing to see things you're way after you threw $200,000 cash at a case (without any chance of recovery), it's legal.
So yep, gotta follow the NDA's etc.
All I ever really search for online is: girly shoes & clothing - ammo, firearms & related gear - porn.
I only turn on my location when: I'm going to firearm related activities or stores, an airport, or to government buildings.
I prefer to use cash for purchases.
I offer very few data points & anymore they don't need my expressed permissions to access my mic or much of anything else on my phone, card(s) etc. They have access to it already.
Just is.
Last edited by ChickNorris; 08-13-2019 at 20:42. Reason: Punctuation
My airstream has been stolen by dopers
Its actually kinda scary. All the data trails you create feed various AIs that are able to predict with a surprising degree of accuracy what you'll do next.
Last edited by Zundfolge; 08-13-2019 at 21:21.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
Do you guys get the monthly emails from Google showing where you've been?
"There are no finger prints under water."
I don't know of any guy who gets monthly's . Maybe periodicals, but monthly', no.
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"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
You think they improved speech-to-text-to-data processing because they want to help you play music? Google makes its money by selling data. Use their search engine? KA-CHING!
Use a browser they can data-mine by installing a "tool" to copy your data stream? KA-CHING!
Use their "free" mail server so your email passes through their server? KA-CHING!
I use an Android smartphone because I prefer the ecosystem and dislike iOS but I try to minimize my interaction with Google otherwise. Don't use Chrome, don't use their search engine, don't use gmail. I wish YouTube was still independent; while I use Vimeo over YouTube when I can, the fact of the matter is that a number of the producers I like to follow are on YouTube.
When it comes to Apple vs. Google, think about this. Apple makes its money by selling consumers overpriced stylish electronics and selling vendors a place in their iOS ecosystem. Google makes everything "free" to attract a large customer base then sells their information to get cash flow.
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