At least 5 dead in Midland-Odessa shootings

[cstone]

Which tool or device was utilized in about 99% of these "mass shootings" to end the criminal behavior?

Now tell me again how the firearm is bad.

Like many of the other criminals, this most recent murderer will not be a recidivist. I support effective means to stop repeat offenders. I don't blame trigger fingers or dominant eyes for gun violence either.

[theGinsue]

Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate per million people: Countries Compared

There's that hell-hole of a country, the United States, at #99. I'm sure those stats include suicide. Would be interesting with the suicide numbers separated.

Yes, thank you for this. As I recall, Bill Whittle did one of his videos which reflected the same information. Ah, but the left wants to keep the focus on the tool used - "the gun".."the gun".. I'm fairly certain that those folks murdered by other than firearms didn't give a rats ass what tool was being used to kill them, only that they were being killed.

Which tool or device was utilized in about 99% of these "mass shootings" to end the criminal behavior?

Now tell me again how the firearm is bad.

Like many of the other criminals, this most recent murderer will not be a recidivist. I support effective means to stop repeat offenders. I don't blame trigger fingers or dominant eyes for gun violence either.

Amen!

[BREATHER]

Timothy McVeigh and the Rosenburg's were executed almost immediate.. The Rosenberg's were selling secrets/spying and the feds did not waste anytime....

[Bailey Guns]

Which tool or device was utilized in about 99% of these "mass shootings" to end the criminal behavior?

Yep. Almost all of them. Except in Dallas. We don't need no stinkin' guns. We'll just blow that fucker up with a bomb!

[eddiememphis]

Timothy McVeigh and the Rosenburg's were executed almost immediate.. The Rosenberg's were selling secrets/spying and the feds did not waste anytime....

Is the death penalty really a deterrent to crazy people that want to go out in a blaze of glory? I doubt it enters their minds.

[BREATHER]

That's not the point.... But now that you mention crazies, I worked for the Mental Health Corporation of Denver (and yes it is a corporation)A ten years ago apparently I pissed one of them off at the site I worked at. Months later it came to my attention the said person told his "therapist/case manger" that he was going to shoot me. Months later is when I found out... These "professionals" have the right to warn. Had I know I could have at the very least avoided this man. More recently, I caught a tweaker in my jeep Asshole pulled a knife on me, I was not carrying, he beat feet when I started to pull my knife. Then I was told I was not supposed to carry a knife. Then they put up security cameras/ Guarantee all that effort was to catch employees doing shit. They did not monitor the cameras, only look at the recording's after the fact. I do not work there any longer.

[Rooskibar03]

So this story has disappeared from the headlines. What part of the story no longer fits the narrative?

[Gman]

It's out there. You just have to scroll down from "OMG Dorian!"

Odessa shooter failed gun background check, Gov. Greg Abbott says

BATFE prosecutes an extremely tiny percentage of applicants where they have lied on the application. There are laws, but they aren't enforced. This means we need more laws, right?

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted Monday that the gunman in Saturday's mass shooting in Midland and Odessa had previously failed a gun purchase background check and did not go through a background check to buy the gun used in Saturday's incident.

Abbott's tweet did not say why the 36-year-old Odessa man didn't pass the background check or how he obtained the rifle he used to kill seven people and injure 22 others ? including a state trooper and two police officers. The gunman died after a shootout with police outside a Midland movie theater.

Abbott also cited the shooter's criminal history.

"We must keep guns out of criminals' hands," he said.

The Austin American-Statesman reported that the gunman was arrested for evading arrest and criminal trespass in McLennan County in 2001, when he was 18, and received deferred adjudication ? a form of probation ? after pleading guilty to both misdemeanor charges. In Texas, only convictions for felonies or domestic violence misdemeanors block people from legally buying a gun.

Abbott could not be immediately reached for comment.

In Texas, licensed dealers must conduct background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS. However, there are exceptions to this rule, such as if the buyer already has a Texas license to carry a handgun. Private sales between individuals also do not require a criminal background check, which includes some gun sales at gun shows.

Also on Monday, Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said the gunman had been fired from his job just before the shooting. Gerke said the gunman and his boss at an oilfield services company got into a verbal altercation and both the gunman and the company called 911 to report the incident. The gunman also called the FBI's tip line, Gerke said.

FBI Special Agent Christopher Collins said the gunman was "rambling" but not threatening when he called the tip line.

The shooting spree began 15 minutes after that call when two Texas Department of Public Safety troopers pulled over the man for a traffic violation and he shot and wounded one of the troopers with a rifle. He then began driving around Midland and Odessa, randomly shooting at people. At some point he ditched his car, fatally shot a 29-year-old U.S. Postal Service letter carrier and continued shooting people from the postal van.

Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly stated one of the exceptions to the NICS background check requirement. Holding a state license to carry a handgun is an exception to the requirement.

...did not go through a background check to buy the gun used...

Abbott's tweet did not say why the 36-year-old Odessa man didn't pass the background check or how he obtained the rifle he used...

Why say "buy" when you don't know how it was obtained?

[Irving]

So this story has disappeared from the headlines. What part of the story no longer fits the narrative?

What's left to talk about?

[Gman]

Lying to buy a gun? Don’t worry about the feds.

If you lied to buy a firearm, fear not the feds.

Your chances of being prosecuted by the Justice Department for falsifying information to illegally buy a gun are almost zero.

Reviews by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in fiscal 2017 led to 112,000 gun-purchase denials because people were in forbidden categories, according to a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The Justice Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) investigated 12,700 of those cases.

How many of the investigated cases resulted in prosecutions?

Twelve.

That’s 0.09 percent of the cases ATF investigated.

That means the crooks, the wife beaters and the homicidal maniacs who lie to get a gun have little reason to worry that Uncle Sam will get them for faking on Form 4473. It lists nine questions designed to cull those who should not be strapped. The questions include: “Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony,” “Are you a fugitive from justice,” and “Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective.”

...but background checks work.

They're statistically worthless, yet a lot of money is spent on them. I guess it makes some people feel better.