Post-Ban Lower Receivers

[Wolfshoon]

Six features of an 1994 "Assault weapon":

Detachable magazine plus two or more of the following features-
pistol grip
bayonet mount
flash hider (but not compensator)
folding or extending butt stock
grenade launcher or barrel shroud (cant remember which at the moment)

Colt was also doing the "big front pin receiver" and filled Rdias area and ar15 vs m16 f/a machined bolt bullshit as they didn't like doing civilian sales at the time either. Other fun crap at the time was a "machine gun in a bag or envelope" where just having a shoe string with a ring for recoil impulse bump fired M1A was a ruled a "go to jail" offense by the courts. Just having some parts of an M16 in an AR was verboten (bolt carrier, various trigger parts regardless of weather or not it was capable of f/a) but you could literally buy just about every component off the shelf except the RDIAS itself, and I saw several of those for sale as well--legality unknown at the time, probably bogus as the MG registry was closed in 1986.

Bushmaster was selling lowers at that time, but several local FFL's didn't want to sell bare lowers because of ubiquitous "legal reasons" that they would never explain. Remember going to Dragon Man's to get a Bushy lower at the low low price of $150 and I thought it was a good deal at the time. Prices were through the roof and magazines started at a dollar per round of capacity and several were double that, even for the crappy clones that didn't work for shit.

[Will1776]

New AWB would ban a lot more than cosmetic features due to the definitions (pistol grip defined as anything that can function as a grip) and a one feature test. Also bans anything that has similar capabilities to "assault rifles" so basically all semi auto rifles unless exempted in the text of the bill like the mini 14.

[Great-Kazoo]

New AWB would ban a lot more than cosmetic features due to the definitions (pistol grip defined as anything that can function as a grip) and a one feature test. Also bans anything that has similar capabilities to "assault rifles" so basically all semi auto rifles unless exempted in the text of the bill like the mini 14.

The next one if and when it happens will IMO ban and semi auto black rifles that holds a detachable magazine. Which will raise the company value of SCR and who knows how many other soon to mfg copies

https://fightlite.com/scr-lwr-mc

[Bailey Guns]

The officers made out like thieves buying mags for their guns then reselling their "old mags" to the stores for an astronomical price that was then passed on to the public.

Huh...I must've missed that part. LEOs couldn't just walk into a gun shop and buy standard mags. You had to have a letter from your department, on dept letterhead, stating exactly what the mags were for and who would use them. It was generally a PITA. The letter was to be filed with the 4473 in cases where a gun (like an AR-15) was purchased or kept on file with the FFL if it was just mags.

[Bailey Guns]

Sort of. The ban pretty much limited you to a certain number of cosmetic features. Technically you could have kept the threaded barrel and bayonet lug if you gave up other features like the pistol grip or whatever.

Technically that's true. But then you would have to give up the ability to accept normal mags.

There were 5 evil features that defined an Assault Weapon:

1) ability to accept "hi-cap" mags
2) pistol grip
3) threaded muzzle
4) bayo lug
5) suppressor

To be legal the gun could have no more than two of those features. The ability to accept standard mags was a given. That left you with one feature...usually the pistol grip. By far the most common configuration was a rifle that would accept standard mags, pistol grip, plain muzzle (later the "muzzle brake" that was permanently pinned or welded came along...that eliminated the threaded barrel feature and still resembled the military style flash suppressor) and fixed or permanently pinned, non-collapsible, collapsible stock (pinned fully open).

It was also illegal to convert a newly made assault rifle (made after the ban) into a "pre-ban" configured rifle.

So the ban did nothing to change, or "ban", the firearm. In reality it banned flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, collapsible stocks and mags over 10 rounds for civilian sales.

DiFi had a litter of kittens when she (and other democrats) figured out nothing really changed for the gun makers. They just adapted to the new rules. Democrats accused the gun industry of finding loopholes and circumventing the law. No, dipshit, they followed the letter of the law just like you wrote it. Wasn't their fault you're an idiot.

ETA: Just noticed the post above by Wolfshoon. Could've saved a lot of time if I'd read that first because he pretty covered everything I just said.

Then 2004 came along and everything magically went back to normal in most places. A few states kept the ban in effect. Then the guns and mags marked "for LE/Mil use only" instantly became "rare" and "collector items". It was just stupidity.

[Justin]

Even the ten round magazines really only applied to new production magazines since all of the standard capacity magazines were still perfectly legal to buy, sell, or own. Although at the astronomical prices you mentioned.

USGI 30 rounders were going for around $25 each at the time, that's the equivalent of about $37.50 today.

I remember a friend buying a beta drum at the time and paying $400 for it.

[Justin]

You forgot sec 922r. Requiring foreign guns to have no more than 10 foreign parts. Which is still in effect.. AK's had H/T/S, hand guards, pistol grip, butt stock , gas piston, magazine base plate & follower.

FN's were using charging handles, furniture, gas piston , H/T/S , mag floor plate and follower.


922 parts mfg did very well back then. Of course those were the days of $100 FN - Herstal Belgium parts kits from FAC, Federal Arms Corp Now morphed / absorbed in to Tapco

Damn, the AWB was good for American Ingenuity. Pass a law we'll work around it, legally .

My understanding was that 922(r) was the result of the import ban that passed under Bush Senior and wasn't part of the 1994 ban on so-called "assault weapons."

[Justin]

DiFi had a litter of kittens when she (and other democrats) figured out nothing really changed for the gun makers. They just adapted to the new rules. Democrats accused the gun industry of finding loopholes and circumventing the law. No, dipshit, they followed the letter of the law just like you wrote it. Wasn't their fault you're an idiot.

Unfortunately, that's not a mistake they're planning to repeat. subsequent proposals from the dems have limited the number of allowable "evil features" to only one, so you'd basically be stuck with either something like a Mini 14 or Fightlight SCR or an AR with a permanently afixed magazine a la the California style ones that use a bullet button.

Also, some of the subsequent proposals have included provisions to require changing the definition of pre-existing rifles to make them NFA devices in an attempt to force everyone who owns them to either file the paperwork to register them (and you think tax stamp wait times suck now), or get rid of them.

[KevDen2005]

Huh...I must've missed that part. LEOs couldn't just walk into a gun shop and buy standard mags. You had to have a letter from your department, on dept letterhead, stating exactly what the mags were for and who would use them. It was generally a PITA. The letter was to be filed with the 4473 in cases where a gun (like an AR-15) was purchased or kept on file with the FFL if it was just mags.

A family friend recently retired as a commander from a metro agency and he was telling me the department wasn't sure how to handle acquiring the magazines from officers who bought them. They were forcing officers to give the PD their purchased magazines when they left the agency and not compensating them, unknown how long, until someone finally made a stink about it and said the agency had to compensate them for the property if they weren't going to let the officers keep the mags.

[colorider]

At the time I was sitting on about 50 of the Eagle branded banana mags for the ruger 10/22. Sold all but 4. Made enough money to buy a Honda Pilot. The mini dune buggy thing, not the car.