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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Unfortunately, that's not a mistake they're planning to repeat. subsequent proposals from the dems have limited the number of allowable "evil features" to only one, so you'd basically be stuck with either something like a Mini 14 or Fightlight SCR or an AR with a permanently afixed magazine a la the California style ones that use a bullet button.

    Also, some of the subsequent proposals have included provisions to require changing the definition of pre-existing rifles to make them NFA devices in an attempt to force everyone who owns them to either file the paperwork to register them (and you think tax stamp wait times suck now), or get rid of them.
    Yep...nothing would surprise me now. The democrats are rapidly losing their fear of talking about things close to DiFi's, "Mr and Mrs America...turn them all in" type of scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Also, some of the subsequent proposals have included provisions to require changing the definition of pre-existing rifles to make them NFA devices in an attempt to force everyone who owns them to either file the paperwork to register them (and you think tax stamp wait times suck now), or get rid of them.
    When they can classify a piece of plastic with no magazine, barrel, or fire control group as a "machine gun", all bets are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    When they can classify a piece of plastic with no magazine, barrel, or fire control group as a "machine gun", all bets are off.

    That was Trump, the great Republican savior, 100% supporter of the 2nd...

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    Somewhat related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    That was Trump, the great Republican savior, 100% supporter of the 2nd...
    It's worth pointing out what the other options were at the time.

    If they had forced the legislature's hand, then a bill would have passed that not only would have banned bump stocks but would have explicitly banned "anything capable of increasing the rate of fire of a rifle."

    Presumably this would have not only included bump stocks, but also binary triggers, after market target and competition triggers, tuned buffers and buffer springs, and even things like putting oil on the sear.

    In the wake of the Vegas shooting, the press crucifying literally anyone who said anything even remotely pro-gun, and a supposed public outcry to "do something" it's a minor miracle that changing the regulations specifically on bump stocks is all that we ended up with. Frankly, given how shoddy the regulatory change was, and what's happening with the lawsuits as a result, there's probably a non-zero chance that the ban will get thrown out by the courts anyway.
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    But after the lengthy comment section, ig had died down and the ATF could have quietky not implemented the rule.

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    well if one was to force a fixed mag on AR's i know 50 & 100 round drums would probably start in the $4-500 range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Somewhat related.

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    Does it really annoy anyone else when they do cutesy bullcrap with the fire and safe? If you hand that off to someone who doesn't have it absolutely memorized, how do they know without pulling the trigger? It's not even clear in the context which would be which. This is one rare category I wish was regulated. (clearly mark safe and fire positions on new mfg)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    Does it really annoy anyone else when they do cutesy bullcrap with the fire and safe? If you hand that off to someone who doesn't have it absolutely memorized, how do they know without pulling the trigger? It's not even clear in the context which would be which. This is one rare category I wish was regulated. (clearly mark safe and fire positions on new mfg)
    I don?t really care myself, hardly use the safety on my ARs. Does it annoy you when it?s not marked at all like some surplus guns? m1, mosin, etc?

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    The words are irrelevant. The selector switch is what makes it in safe or not... so as the owner, you better figure that out when it’s unloaded... Some pistols are safe when a lever is up (1911’s) and others are safe when it’s down (Walthers), and they don’t have words on them at all.
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