My Lunch

[BigBear]

lol, Sturtle, you are having a bad day my friend. I don't know the whole story. Just thought it was an interesting event to share.

As far as the unnecessary raid... I'm not sure it was unnecessary. The kid has loud parties all the time, drives like a bat out of hell with little kids around, several complaints against him from his neighbors for different/various reasons, horrible temper, and is just downright a mean/angry kid. I don't know if it was an unnecessary raid, but I sure didn't try to stop it. It'll be a little quieter when I go to sleep tonight.

Update from wife: They towed his car too! lol.

Hope you have a better day Sturtle. Peace.

[Irving]

I'm feeling better now, that response has nothing to do with my day. What is the point of forced entry into a persons house (especially ex or current military) when there is no emergency? No hostage = no entry. In my opinion, it is putting those cops at an extra risk to try and grab the guy that way, especially when no one was in immediate danger. How comfortable would you be when your boss tells you, "Hey BigBear, we're going to force entry on this military guy's house today. You're going to be the point man, so try not to get shot in the face while you and 9 other guys try to squeeze through the same single entry point into a small apartment. I mean sure, we could just nab him on the way to the mail box when he is unsuspecting and unprepared, but if we pound on his door while he's in the familiarity of his own home, and will have time to grab a gun, it will be just that much more exciting. Good luck!"

[Elhuero]

Difficult for me to give an opinion on this without sounding too anti-police.

[Irving]

To be fair to the police, they could have knocked and asked to talk to him, THEN he started acting like a punk. Even then, I think the correct response would have been, "Okay sir, have fun without power or water then. See you in a few days."

[BigBear]

To be fair to the police, they could have knocked and asked to talk to him, THEN he started acting like a punk. Even then, I think the correct response would have been, "Okay sir, have fun without power or water then. See you in a few days."

True, that would have been the good route. Not trying to stand up for or speak for the cops, but there are a lot of variables that we probably don't know about in the situation. Anyways, it's all over know and I just need to find someone that knows what happened! lol.

The more I think about it, just waiting him out is too easy. They need some adreinaline! 8 cops just sitting there until the "crazy, right wing religious, ASSUALT rifle toting, homegrown terrorist" comes out is wasting good hardearned taxpayer money! Just go in there guns blazing (please read with sarcasicm)

[Irving]

None of what was said really says anything about individual officers either. I just want to point that out.

[theGinsue]

So you witnessed them doing an unnecessary raid on a guy that they could have just nabbed while he was leaving the store or something? That's what I'd write about in my witness report.

I'm sure that will catch me some shit on here, but oh well.

While I agree that approaching a suspect on his own turf poses additional risk to the LEO's, trying to approach this guy in public where he might have a good chance of seeing them coming and where innocent bystanders could be put at risk is even more dangerous. If the situation went so bad as to involve a bystander (which would be horrible in it's own right), the resulting media backlash could turn public opinion so against LE that officers might face further risks.

Just my 2 cents.

[sniper7]

I didn't get lunch. I was killing my dinner! Pheasants!!!!

cool story though.

[Irving]

It has nothing to do with what the guy did. It has everything to do with if someone was in immediate physical danger or not.

[Pancho Villa]

I always wonder why cops disarm any friendly, obviously unthreatening person near them. If I was going to go crazy and shoot you, do you think I'd walk up, talk nice and tell you I was carrying?

Do you think disarming me makes you safer?

I dunno. It bothers me. I avoid talking to police if for no other reason that I resent any man disarming me so he can feel safer.

That said...neat lunch. I took 15 minutes to scarf down my no-carb chicken pasta alfredo and got back to work. Not nearly as exciting.