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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    They say his injuries are "grave". Moron could have blown the front of his face off.

    Bill Clinton was already spouting off that his ban could have prevented this. I bet the firearm will ultimately not have been impacted by anything in the Clinton crime bill.
    California's current bans are already stronger than anything Bill had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    And why are they wasting resources to save the shooter?
    Because , CA. Years ago CA had the DOC. Dept or Corrections. They changed it to DOC&R Dept of Corrections & Rehabilitation.

    What can you say about a state that (through well funded 3rd parties) denies or restricts people of opposing political parties to use their 1st amendment rights. BUT>.............................................S pent a million + dollars to build a Dialysis Facility for (ready for it) a death row prisoner who's kidneys were failing.

    Yes a death row inmate, they decided to spend millions on to .keep alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    California's current bans are already stronger than anything Bill had.
    And they'll use that under the guise of magazine bans to say.
    Had the shooter had more than 7-8 rounds the death toll could have been more.

    Thankfully he only had access to 10 rounds of less.
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    I don't want to live in a place where doctors don't have the sole purpose of keeping their patients alive.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Because , CA. Years ago CA had the DOC. Dept or Corrections. They changed it to DOC&R Dept of Corrections & Rehabilitation.

    What can you say about a state that (through well funded 3rd parties) denies or restricts people of opposing political parties to use their 1st amendment rights. BUT>.............................................S pent a million + dollars to build a Dialysis Facility for (ready for it) a death row prisoner who's kidneys were failing.

    Yes a death row inmate, they decided to spend millions on to .keep alive.

    A quick search found this document from California in 2006
    https://sco.ca.gov/Files-AUD/specrep...thcare_rpt.pdf

    Lots of money being spent
    The costs are likely dramatically higher now
    All states will have similar prison healthcare issues.


    A few excerpts

    At least two of the four prison acute-care hospitals are functioning at a fraction of their capacity,
    resulting in increased costs of contracted services and the need for outside hospital services
    --
    For example, in a prior audit, the Bureau of State Audits (BSA) found that
    CDCR was paying a hospital 4.16 times what Medicare would pay for the same inpatient care.
    However, under the old contract, the department on average paid the hospital $2,789
    per day. Under the new contract, the CDCR is paying an average of $3,994 per day, or 43.2% more
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    For example, the CDCR paid a hospital $12,379.50 (billed charges totaling $40,255 @ 30%)
    for drugs provided to an inmate with cancer. The SCO’s analysis of the Medi-Cal Program
    formulary files found that Medi-Cal would pay only $300 to $400 for the same drugs.
    --
    The CDCR currently has about 150 inmates who need dialysis treatment.
    Most of these inmates are transported outside the institutions three times a week for dialysis treatment.
    Each treatment costs, on average, more than $400 plus the costs for inmate transportation and
    custody while outside of the prisons.

    150 * 400 * 3 * 52 = ~$9M + other fuzzy costs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I don't want to live in a place where doctors don't have the sole purpose of keeping their patients alive.
    I'm talking about denying life saving care to obvious criminals. Same for convicted criminals serving life, longer than reasonable lifespan or death row sentences. Dying from natural causes vs artificially keeping them alive past their natural life span is a huge waste of resources better spent elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    I'm talking about denying life saving care to obvious criminals. Same for convicted criminals serving life, longer than reasonable lifespan or death row sentences. Dying from natural causes vs artificially keeping them alive past their natural life span is a huge waste of resources better spent elsewhere.
    If the doctors weren't there, then they wouldn't know. If the cops can just stop into a hospital and instruct doctors to let people for because they are "bad," then we have serious problems.
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    Oh darn, shooter died.
    If you're unarmed, you are a victim


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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalobo View Post
    Oh darn, shooter died.
    Oh darn.
    He was such a "nice" looking kid. --Neighbors.
    He never talked to me, but he "seemed" normal. -- Classmates

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