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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I'd probably forget where I buried them.
    That's why you put some of those green fence post over them. With a sign the says WARNING: ITEMS BURIED HERE |
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    If you spend money at a gun store, for a gun, ammo, accessories, etc., how would the financial institution know anything other than the total charge? Since when does the credit card company get an itemized accounting of your total bill?
    They don't need to know exactly what you bought. For the Leftists, the mere fact you patronized a gun store is sufficient for them to compile a list of suspects and addresses. They can simply apologize after ther aid if they don't find anything and let you deal with the breakage yourself. If they DO find something they want, they trundle you off to jail and declare success.

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    This is why the future will be anonymous, crypto currency based credit cards (because eventually this will go way beyond guns ... eventually buying at unapproved businesses like Chick-Fil-A will get you on blacklists).

    Yes, there's still the 4473 to contend with, but its not like private companies have access to those records ... yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    This is why the future will be anonymous, crypto currency based credit cards (because eventually this will go way beyond guns ... eventually buying at unapproved businesses like Chick-Fil-A will get you on blacklists).

    Yes, there's still the 4473 to contend with, but its not like private companies have access to those records ... yet.
    If anything, using crypto currency will be about extracting as much tax revenue as possible. No one will give a crap about anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    If anything, using crypto currency will be about extracting as much tax revenue as possible.
    The point at which you convert Crypto into Fiat is when you'll take the tax hit. As long as you leave it Crypto it'll be hidden from the tax thieves.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The point at which you convert Crypto into Fiat is when you'll take the tax hit. As long as you leave it Crypto it'll be hidden from the tax thieves.
    Or the second you buy anything with Crypto. Many crimes are actually solved the moment someone pays for something in e.g. bitcoin, cause the pesky thing about crypto is unlike cash, it keeps a ledger of all the transactions going forward. If they are tracking the money, and you spend it on ANYTHING intangible, the door is open to unwind the transaction right back to you.

    I'd reasonably suspect the government is secretly involved in the development of a lot of crypto and ledgers for that reason...

    ...much like they are behind the creation, operation, and development of the tor network.
    (which will come as a shock to a lot of people here) Yup, folks, the gov't funded somewhere between 85-95% of the development of Tor, and held weekly meetings with it's prime developers. Yup, we do that.

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    Fiat or not doesn't matter. The point I'm making is that if crypto is adopted as the official currency, then EVERY transaction is stored and known (unlike cash), so now you're paying taxes on all your garage sale purchases/sales and everything off of Craigslist.
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    Same thought, different perspectives. Cool. Widespread adoption of crypto would be devastating.

    .01 bitcoin found in the bank account of a shooter? Well, they'll unwind everywhere that .01 came from.
    Just imagine the civil forfeiture possibilities....

    Gov't drools at the thought, revenue, control, and possibilities. Much like TOR, ironically privacy advocates do their best work for the gov't.

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    It is why I prefer to trade and / or buy used. There is still the FFL transfer, except for C&R, which is getting easier as many modern firearms are 50 years old or more.

    Some 40 years or so ago, I watched a congressman state that they were working hard on eliminating the illicit economy in the USA. He meant cash transactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    ...There is still the FFL transfer...
    Well... yeah.

    I'm sure no one that leans Libertarian ever decides to omit that step.

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