Chase and shootout involving hijacked UPS truck in Florida lead to four deaths

[Gman]

Chase and shootout involving hijacked UPS truck in Florida lead to four deaths

Heard about this on the morning news. They weren't sure if the UPS driver was shot by the perp or police. Based on the video at the linked article, looks like the UPS driver was killed in the hail of gunfire by law enforcement. A sad situation all the way around.

[Irving]

Does your article says who the fourth person killed was?

[Gman]

Does your article says who the fourth person killed was?

Two people suspected to have been the robbers, the UPS driver and an uninvolved nearby motorist were killed 20 miles away after the nationally televised freeway pursuit, said George Piro, special agent in charge of the FBI's Miami field office.

[Irving]

Sounds like the fourth person was killed during the shootout as well maybe?

[Gman]

Yep. Just caught up in traffic. It's pretty crazy to see video of the police engaging the UPS truck while using occupied vehicles for cover. As the drivers try to get out of the way, the officers just move with the vehicles. The whole thing looks like a crossfire nightmare.

[JohnnyEgo]

There is a lengthy post about this on 1911forums by a guy who lived just down the street from this incident. Includes a link to a rather graphic video that showed the shoot-out all the way through to the unfortunate conclusion.
On the one hand, the idea that 19 officers would fire 200+ rounds under stress and return fire does not strike me as outside of the rhelm of reason. On the other hand, engaging in a high volume shoot-out in a heavily populated area and using occupied civilian vehicles as shields does not seem like a particularly good decision.

[Irving]

Boward County seems to be making the wrong kind of name for itself.

[Gman]

There is a lengthy post about this on 1911forums by a guy who lived just down the street from this incident. Includes a link to a rather graphic video that showed the shoot-out all the way through to the unfortunate conclusion.
On the one hand, the idea that 19 officers would fire 200+ rounds under stress and return fire does not strike me as outside of the rhelm of reason. On the other hand, engaging in a high volume shoot-out in a heavily populated area and using occupied civilian vehicles as shields does not seem like a particularly good decision.

Same conclusion video in my link above from the same news helicopter. You can see the UPS driver raising his arm as he's rolling out of the truck with sparks coming from the step area right next to him. It might even be a shot hitting him in the back below the shoulders as he's rolling out.

I'll include the video from the 1911Forum here as it doesn't have as much follow-up video edited into it.

[Bailey Guns]

That was just bad all the way around. Frankly, I'm surprised more people in cars weren't shot. I feel badly for the UPS guy.

[Little Dutch]

That was a bad place to engage in a shootout.

Thanks for posting the video.