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    Keyboard Operation Specialist FoxtArt's Avatar
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    Video is way beyond tragic and horrifying. Beyond the driver, rounds impacting some of the adjacent cars. What's done is done, so there's no way to know if outcomes would've been different and no way to predict them in the moment. Still, I wonder if there would've been less loss of life if LEO would've kept distance on this, but in the moment, there's no way to know if they will kill a hostage either. If possible, it would've been nice to delay a mass shootout even if they are extreme risk (while innocents are in every direction) - of which two died.

    [sarc on] If only everyone was all driving cybertrucks. [/sarc off]

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    Unfortunately, the depths of "Florida Stupid" aren't just limited to non-LEOs. I've dealt with more than my share of round-headed inbreeders in the last 13 years, as well as some of the most impulsive, aggressive and ignorant officers/deputies that I've ever met. It might be all of the tourist B.S. that makes them that way.

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    6 million humans all living in a 75 mile radius. Largest industry in the state is controlled substances imported from third world countries.
    Add in hurricanes, Zika virus,red tide etc. and you have the perfect cesspool.

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    Florida offshore - relatively good.

    Florida on-land - everything negative you may have heard. -and more.

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    My wife and I were talking about Florida craziness this morning. She was born and raised there for 38 years, my son was born there as well, and I lived there for a good chunk of my life. It is amazing what just becomes normal. We lived in a quiet residential neighborhood where nonetheless, we woke up one morning to find a Ford Explorer embedded in the side of our neighbor's house, upside down and about five feet in the air. I lived in Jacksonville, and worked at a gun store that catered to law enforcement, and even my LEO friends would complain about the basic incompetence and corruption of the police force. Not every cop, nor perhaps even most, but you never knew what you were going to get behind the flashing lights, and people across all spectra; political, economic, and even other LEOs, etc... just accepted this as basic reality.
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    Those cops seem to have gotten their training from 80s action movies and the Spetznaz. Just a buffet of stupid decision making that led to them killing multiple innocents.
    Last edited by Ridge; 12-06-2019 at 21:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Those cops seem to have gotten their training from 80s action movies and the Spetznaz. Just a buffet of stupid decision making that led to them killing multiple innocents.
    You're the master of one dimensional thinking.
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    I was featured on a trailer of a Miami Vice episode. My fifteen seconds of fame. Strange thing is I can't find a copy of it anywhere. Florida sucks!
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    Wow. What a total cluster....really unfortunate situation. Amazing more people weren't injured/killed.

    It looks like every LEO vehicle within a three-state radius was there.

    Morbid curiosity, I wonder how many rounds were fired.

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