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    I find it amazing that someone wielding a shotgun didn't create more carnage. RIP to the church-goer that was killed and good shooting from the individual that dropped the attacker.
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    It looks like the shooter was confronted by several people at the start of the video. Since we cannot hear what's being said, it is difficult to intelligently comment but the first guy shot is in the middle of his draw. Forced to start drawing while being focused by shooter is starting at a huge disadvantage. I don't see the guy who put the shooter down have trouble with his draw, he is obscured at beginning but my impression is that his attention is not on the shooter at start.

    Looks like a short pump shotgun to me.
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    Not the fastest draw but it didn't look that bad to me under the circumstances. Not to mention he took care of the problem quickly, with one shot, and no collateral damage. As far as I'm concerned...

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    I am always carrying at church, after the synagogue incident yesterday I was rolling heavy today.

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    Colion Noir's take on it was pretty good ... good concise video to share about the situation.

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    The shooter wasn't very "active".... He was killed 5 seconds after pulling his shotgun.
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    This shows how fast this can all happen. Time from 1st shot to the last. Less than 3 seconds.

    Good guy did a great job.

    It definitely makes me want to work on my draw more. And to maybe reconsider my carry method as an usher in church.

    It also brings to my attention some of the personal defense trainers out there that say you aren't going to win if you have to draw when the bad guy already has a gun out, particularly at close distance. There's obviously a lot of truth to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    This shows how fast this can all happen. Time from 1st shot to the last. Less than 3 seconds.

    Good guy did a great job.

    It definitely makes me want to work on my draw more. And to maybe reconsider my carry method as an usher in church.

    It also brings to my attention some of the personal defense trainers out there that say you aren't going to win if you have to draw when the bad guy already has a gun out, particularly at close distance. There's obviously a lot of truth to that.
    It also brings to attention that precision extended range shooting may be necessary in a defensive scenario- 3-3-3 doesn't cut it all of the time.

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    Britt Farmer, the church's senior minister, told the Dallas Morning News that the church lost two "great men today, but it could have been a lot worse, and I am thankful our government has allowed us the opportunity to protect ourselves."

    It's remarkably difficult to further the cause when people still think like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Britt Farmer, the church's senior minister, told the Dallas Morning News that the church lost two "great men today, but it could have been a lot worse, and I am thankful our government has allowed us the opportunity to protect ourselves."

    It's remarkably difficult to further the cause when people still think like this.
    Exactly... who needs permission to carry. It's not governments right to restrict the 2nd

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