Trump said Iran will pay...no bluff

[spqrzilla]

Bad example, "pirates" are not states, one cannot declare war against non state actors. Historically, pirates were always outside of law subject to summary execution. The original 'illegal combatants '.

That said, the boundaries between Congressional war powers and executive powers has been a debate since the Constitution was drafted.

[Gman]

Bad example, "pirates" are not states, one cannot declare war against non state actors. Historically, pirates were always outside of law subject to summary execution. The original 'illegal combatants '.

That said, the boundaries between Congressional war powers and executive powers has been a debate since the Constitution was drafted.

The "pirates" were acting on behalf of the leaders of Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli. I don't think it's a bad example at all.

A coordinated attack on our embassy is no different than an attack on US soil.

April 8, 2019:


"The IRGC is a terrorist organization." In regard to Qassem Soleimani - "He's a terrorist."

[Gman]

Air strikes targeting Iraqi militia kill six: army source

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Air strikes targeting Iraq's Popular Mobilization Forces umbrella grouping of Iran-backed Shi'ite militias near camp Taji north of Baghdad have killed six people and critically wounded three, an Iraqi army source said late on Friday.

Two of the three vehicles making up a militia convoy were found burned, the source said, as well as six burned corpses. The strikes took place at 1:12 am local time, he said.

[TFOGGER]

It appears that President Trump was well within his powers as defined by the War Powers Act of 1973:

It provides that the U.S. President can send the Armed Forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by Congress, "statutory authorization," or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

Bold added by me for emphasis. An Embassy is sovereign US territory, ergo, after the attack, no authorization necessary.

[MrPrena]

^as funny as Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf "Bagdad Bob"

[BPTactical]

^as funny as Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf "Bagdad Bob"

Saw that GIF earlier, I laffed.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Rand Paul is a jack wagon with an early 19th century view of national defense. The President has always had the power to take emergency action; the bombing in question and the limited troop movements to reinforce US territory (embassies) fall within that purview. As a matter of protocol, it would have been good for the President to notify senior members of Congress of that actions he was taking but he is not required to -- and I don't recall any of the Democrats or liberal media getting all bent out of shape when President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton decided to abandon Americans at the US consular compound in Benghazi (not taking any action against a hostile attack is taking action).

[mindfold]

I see no difference than our forces taking care of Bin Laden and this jackwagon.

Case closed.


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[bryjcom]

If anyone actually read what Rand said they would see that it was words of caution and not a condemnation really. His whole point is if we are to go to war with Iran, Congress should/must declare war.

[buffalobo]

Rand Paul is a libertarian and a strict constructionist. Being upset that the president didn't seek a formal Declaration of War is pretty much completely within his wheelhouse.

As a life long Libertarian I say Rand Paul and most Libertarians need to get their heads out of their azzez.

Libertarianism assumes everyone will behave as Libertarians. That is not the case and they don't have a real world answer for it.



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