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    Feelings, Nothing more than feelings KS63's Avatar
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    Default Warrant for Red Flag accuser

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    I wonder is the swift denial of the Red Flag order would be the same if it wasn't an officer in question.....

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    One has to remember that the initial order was signed and the sheriff refused to serve it. It was the second hearing where it was denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS63 View Post
    It's only because:
    1) It made the news originally
    and 2) The subject was an active law enforcement officer.

    Otherwise, the courts really don't EVER prosecute for perjury no matter how bad the offense - even if they are outright forging documents for civil proceedings... So you and I don't get this kind of consideration.

    Seen it a lot, worked it a lot, fought it, doesn't do any good. Just how our system works. Same thing applies to the Sheriff refusing to serve.

    If it were me, I'd much prefer the system worked identically for MR. LEO as it does for Bob down the street, so people know what to expect. I wish they served it. (and brushed the perjury aside because the courts always have more important things to do than to protect the integrity of the courts)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    One has to remember that the initial order was signed and the sheriff refused to serve it. It was the second hearing where it was denied.
    The initial order was not signed, she did not request a TERPO. What the sheriff refused to serve was a notice of the hearing.

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    So far they can’t locate her. Wonder if she boogied or something else?

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    I could have phrased it better, but point being it would be nice if the news could report how the situation ACTUALLY is (or would be, with other people) than to give people a false impression that this sort of thing will be addressed.

    You should know as well as I do that people's bullshit attestations are almost never prosecuted... even when they openly admit it on filing documents. The court's perception is it's too busy/too overworked. The only cases I've really ever seen get charged are simply because something is being looked at (news), so a court wants to make a show of it to maintain the public perception. [I'm even aware of a federal statute that prevents criminal charges for forging federal forms during civil proceedings, not shitting....]

    And LEO protecting service on other law enforcement officers - esp in small counties - is a real thing. I've encountered it myself, and I've been hired more than once to due difficult process services in the past where county Sheriff's are trying to "protect" someone from service. Now, that's not a blanket thing - wherever you worked, it might not have been. And it's not necessarily an issue of the individual LEO, but more a bullshit attitude by individual Sheriff(s) in some places.

    But it is a thing, in some places, and you don't know it's a "thing" until someone's attempting service on a LEO. (even as a witness, mind you). That's why I don't particularily care for the Sheriff "not serving" it on his brother-inblue - even if it is bullshit - because I think it's important for the public to know that this kind of manipulated red-flag crap WOULD be served on anybody else, unless the Sheriff knows you personally and it makes the news... in this case, apparently.

    I don't like the false perception this creates that there's any ramification if neighbor Karen makes an anonymous false filing to get a RPO against neighbor, Bob. I'd much rather the news be able to report how it'll go down for all those non-LEO who will follow this gentleman.
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    Wait... so her son got smoked by Phillip Morris? Amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    Wait... so her son got smoked by Phillip Morris? Amirite?
    +10 points. You have the makings of a modern journalist.

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