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    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    It is supposed to happen then you have to fight to get your guns back. Have to fight to disprove the accusations.
    That isn't how our system works. Or not how it's supposed to work, anyway. Presumption of innocence is a fairly important legal concept we follow. That's kind of the whole argument against the Red Flag law and it's a pretty basic concept that everyone should understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    After watching the video I was able to deduce that Jeremy was not a good decision maker.
    After I read the comments under the video, I was able to deduce that there are a lot of folks out there supporting criminals.
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    There are a whole lot of people that support criminals under the guise of being advocates. It's bullshit. If want to see a bunch of asstards in Denver, look at YouTube and Richard Brandt and his pals. A bunch of non working non productive slugs.
    DEMOCRACY is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner... LIBERTY is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome.... Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    This is an egregious example of attempting to cause real harm to someone through an abuse of the court system as you'll ever find. If this case isn't prosecuted, none should ever be. No one is saying this law is good or balanced. And you have now way of knowing how many people will be prosecuted for abusing this law. Your comments are as one-sided and jaded as those you continue to chastise for holding this case up as an example of how this law might be abused.

    Her son made poor decisions. Judging only from the bodycam video that shooting was as justified as any I've ever seen. This deranged woman can't get over her son being dead due to his poor behavior and she's tormenting the officer involved. She should be in jail. If anyone needs to be in jail it's her. I wouldn't be surprised if she eventually winds up just like her son.

    I wholeheartedly approve of the way Holmes is being prosecuted in this case. Not because I think it will cause those in power to reconsider what an awful law they've created, but because Susan Holmes deserves it for her actions. I'm under no illusion this will change things for Joe Citizen, but it'll sure as hell give Holmes an opportunity to rethink her actions and it will bring some relief to the victim, if only temporarily. This is not just about Holmes.

    And YouTube sensation timmybmm is a freakin' idiot.
    I agree wholeheartedly.
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    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    A Bill was introduced to repeal the red flag law.

    https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb20-...d02Y00uGOppmXE
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    I feel sorry for the Police Officers that have to deal with nut cases like this on the front and back end of this situation. That is a super crappy situation to be in all the way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    A Bill was introduced to repeal the red flag law.

    https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb20-...d02Y00uGOppmXE
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    After watching the video I was able to deduce that Jeremy was not a good decision maker.
    His mom is no rocket scientist either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    They did. For six or seven days. At the hearing, the order was thrown out.
    I'm not doubting you, but I couldn't find anything that talks about officer Morris giving up his firearms or having his access revoked at work. Do you have a link?
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    Let me get this straight. She knowingly hid from the cops while there was an active warrant for her arrest. She knew about the warrant. The lights in her house are clearly out, she's hiding. The cops are asking her to comply. She doesn't. Then she gets the noncompliance prize, men forcing her to comply.

    This is called Law Enforcement. It's been going on in this country for over 200 fucking years.

    ANYONE that thinks she was abused need to pull their head out of their ass.
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