I'm back after a short slumber.

[Great-Kazoo]

Lots of people on this forum that have made good without a formal degree, and some of us have started over more than once.


How true. The spouse has said on more than 1 occasion. It's not the first time we're starting out with nothing. it's not the last time either.


Food on the table, roof over your head and everything else is just something one needs to go for.

After moving to CO in the early 80's i was between jobs, in year 3 here. Started delivering newspapers, just to have some money coming in. Also got a pt day job shagging cars for a rental co. While my new occupation started up.

While "that" job may not be available, a pay check's a pay check.

[jenznat0r]

I appreciate everyone's feedback. I know I am doing a flip on what I originally said, but it's looking like we might move after talking and sitting down with my wife even more. Deep down she wants some family support and she's gone downhill since we moved out here emotionally. It's destroying her inside without that. The physical move wouldn't happen until May when our lease ends up here in Idaho.

I think for now I am putting school to bed as I have no real plan or exit strategy and I'm floundering. The hardest thing I'm ever going to have to do on our marriage is leave my family to move ahead and look for work and temporarily live with my in-laws. She's going to be alone for almost 2 1/2 months until I stabilize things out there with some income and a place to live, as I mentioned "hoping for the best and moving" isn't going to work. She's supportive of the idea, but my wife and kids are what keep me going. Not seeing them for 2 1/2 months would be really hard. Necessary, but hard.

Man, I was really starting to like it here too. But as mentioned, probably for all the wrong reasons.

[Irving]

This is not a jobs issue. This is a decisions and effort issue.

[Great-Kazoo]

Of course, it's a job issue. It's also a firearms issue and a marriage issue. The efforts and decisions one makes on each of these issues affect the other. We are living in a booming economy and if anyone is struggling under these circumstances, then that is hard to understand why.

Because they're unable to apply them self to get ahead. You see all those freeloaders with PLEASE HELP etc signs. hand them a job application and see what happens.

[Mazin]

Because they're unable to apply them self to get ahead. You see all those freeloaders with PLEASE HELP etc signs. hand them a job application and see what happens.

^ this

[Dlesh123]

To the OP, have you ever considered taking an aptitude test? It may help you identify some things you would be good at. For me it came up with a couple of careers, of course I chose the one that everyone said wouldn’t work. The field is so diverse that there were lots of ways to go. 4 of the places I worked at went bankrupt, the last one I have been at for 22 years, It paid the bills, and retirement is going to be ok. Everybody has to find their own path, but you have to actively be looking for it. I also hated the fact that having a degree was a hiring gate, regardless of whether it had anything to do with your job, but that is the way it is and it was the same 40 yrs ago.

[FoxtArt]

I appreciate everyone's feedback. I know I am doing a flip on what I originally said, but it's looking like we might move after talking and sitting down with my wife even more. Deep down she wants some family support and she's gone downhill since we moved out here emotionally. It's destroying her inside without that. The physical move wouldn't happen until May when our lease ends up here in Idaho.

I think for now I am putting school to bed as I have no real plan or exit strategy and I'm floundering. The hardest thing I'm ever going to have to do on our marriage is leave my family to move ahead and look for work and temporarily live with my in-laws. She's going to be alone for almost 2 1/2 months until I stabilize things out there with some income and a place to live, as I mentioned "hoping for the best and moving" isn't going to work. She's supportive of the idea, but my wife and kids are what keep me going. Not seeing them for 2 1/2 months would be really hard. Necessary, but hard.

Man, I was really starting to like it here too. But as mentioned, probably for all the wrong reasons.

Keep doing in depth conversations with your spouse and continue having flexibility and consider all options. If for no other reason that it'll help bring more depth into your marriage making a habit of it. Not knowing her and knowing only half of the sides, every piece of advice here will be flawed. There's also the distinct possibility that even the 2 1/2 month in advance thing is a bad-bad idea (depends on the people, that by itself destroys some marriages), but without knowing both sides or even either person, it's not my place or any others to estimate. If you know unbiased third parties that know you both, maybe seek their input. Btw: I suspect Glorida's post needs a sarcasm sign for proper effect.

[FoxtArt]

Basically, something you never want to do is drastic changes to fix an already doomed relationship. People often try moving or having another kid or whatever, but the added stress doesn't fix things - if you have problems between the two of you, make sure you improve the relationship first, fix the cracks, THEN do the big changes. Not saying that's an issue, because I don't know either one of you, just saying it in case.

[jenznat0r]

FYI, I've already started applying for jobs out there remotely. One has great pay and possible benefits. Hope I even have a remote chance of getting it.

It's been awhile since I've worked as I've done the full-time student thing for a couple years now and lived off loans and some side jobs. Do you apply for a bunch of places at once, or do you just pick a few good places and wait to hear back? Because I am not out there yet it is difficult to follow up.

[CS1983]

Shotgun it. You’re probably looking at 2 weeks to even hear from them and then a few weeks of decision making. A lot of places won’t even give the courtesy of a rejection. Keep a spreadsheet of: location, company, link to job ad, link to career portal to check status.

Since being laid off, I’ve applied to like 19 places. In the past month I’ve had three phone screens, 4 rejections (6 if you count the 3 from Raytheon alone), and heard nothing on the others. I’m qualified for every position and haven’t overshot.

ETA: you might consider having someone competent look at your resume if you haven’t already. Like all writing, it’s best not to edit it yourself.