6 days, 17 hrs. Little over 9100 in queue.Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks
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6 days, 17 hrs. Little over 9100 in queue.
I’m guessing the denials are increasing as buyers with “shady” backgrounds attempt to purchase legally!
I have often wondered if LEO gets a notification of a perp (not some Joe with an unpaid parking ticket) tries to buy a gun gets denied, if it’s a felony to falsify/lie on the BGC form is action taken?
the only time we saw an LE respond to a bad 4473 bgc was when the guy had outstanding warrants. The cbi person asked if we could keep him there by saying the bgc was taking time, while LE was in transit.
Other than that, any denial was told to contact cbi as they did tell us why the buyer was denied.
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Initially, I was going to be flip and speak to the technical aspects of how those data sources could be combined to return instant results (it's actually my field of expertise).
But then, as I think it through, I'm not sure sure I WANT the state to have instant access to data at that scale. The fundamental issue is, we should not have to be subjected to this for something that is a RIGHT, plain and simple.
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Absolutely! I've been saying this as well. This illustrates how much 2A has been "infringed" when the government hoops aren't available. It shouldn't be this way. I should be able to hand my neighbor a gun to defend his home (as well as the neighborhood) without it being an illegal "transfer".
The government is in the way, and when it isn't functioning, can't be counted on and becomes another infringement that shouldn't even be there.
As to the prosecution for those that lie on a 4473, it's almost non-existent. The percentage is so low below 1%, you have to wonder why it's even there at all, at great expense to the taxpayers and our rights.
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I won't go into it further, but there are investigations into those who fail the background check and lie on the 4473. Instacheck forwards the most serious of violations for review. I personally have done about a dozen investigations, mostly felons attempting to purchase, but one illegal alien attempting to purchase as well. It lies at the feet of the DA and whether or not they will prosecute, and if they do, do they keep it at the felony level or plea bargain down to a misdemeanor.
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A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Is this at the state or federal level?
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State level. Tried one at the federal level, but the AUSA wasn't interested in it, so I filed it also at the state level.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
I get denied several times a year. At the shop that knows me really well, they sometimes negligently put a space in my last name. There's supposed to be one and I'm the only person in the family without it. I always get approved once it's corrected of course.
My Drivers License and Birth Certificate don't have a space in my last name. My Social Security information does. It was a real PITA when I was still working DOD, it felt like I was filling out AKA forms every couple of months.
Anyway. I hope I'm not being investigated. It would be a tremendous waste of resources.
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