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    How fast is fast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    Quietbore.com

    I went with a la carte so I could do a titanium blast baffle without doing the whole interior as titanium.

    Waiting on form 1 approval. Get the jig for drilling. Don?t drill til you have the stamp.
    Thanks. I was actually just searching and came across that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erni View Post
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    EFile form 1? Lately about 30-45 days.

    You’ll need to send in fingerprint cards. I bought a kit for that from National Gun Trust.
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    Another vote for CZ. Pick up a 457 pro varmint and it shoots quite well. Even Federal auto match gives decent groups. I didn’t mind the Boyd’s stock but a little short for the LOP. XLR had a sale on their chassis last fall and drop the rifle into it. Shoots even better. Trigger is adjustable and got it down to about a pound with the yo Dave’s kit.

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    I sold my Savage TR-SR to a friend, who just shot a couple of 5-shot 1 inch groups at 100 yards using CCI Standard Velocity. I shot a 2.25" 10 shot group with my CZ452 Ultra Lux using factory CZ olympic style peep sites. I was surprised I was even hitting the target but was happy with the results. I haven't shot it a lot yet but a recently purchased Tikka T1x seems like it is capable of shooting great groups with several different ammo types and even does well with bulk (just like the Savage I sold). My Bergara doesn't have a lot of testing behind it but seems to be pretty picky on ammo. It did well with SK long range match but poorly with the other SK types. The big surprise was the group with Aguila Pistol Match. Rifle match was a mess, go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshoon View Post
    Tikka T1x or CZ457 pro-varmint are your best choices for a bolt action in this price range. They are extremely close in their specs, both have 60ish degree bolt throws that are short, both have good magazine system and proper safeties in the right location that are easy to use. I have the T1x and a 457 scout. The upgrades on the 457 over the previous 455 series were much needed and make it a lot easier to fit and use. I think the barrel profile on the T1x is about perfect for a rimfire in weight vs accuracy. CZ's heavy barrel profiles are preferred, the lighter sporter profiles seems to have more accuracy complaints.

    Both could be used for NRL22/PRS/Steel matches or silhouette and be competitive. They are generally reliable. I have worn out a CZ 455 as it pulls the bolt out unexpectedly when on the extraction stroke about 1 time in 5 now. I really loved that rifle, but the 457 fixed this problem with a side bolt release lever, just like the T1x. Both will need a picatinny rail if you dont want to use 11mm rings/mount, I recommend either a EGW or Area419 rails as they have the best securing system. Spare 10 round mags for both will run around $25-30 each, on sale.

    Both the Ruger and Savage suffer extraction problems. One guy I know with a Ruger american 22 carries a small flat bladed screwdriver with him to extract the stuck cases when the bolt fails to remove it. He has sent it back twice and still the problem remains. Ruger barrel accuracy is also questionable, seems to be on the wrong side of statistics. Savage can also suffer magazine failures where they dump ammo all over the place from bad lips. Most ppl I see start out with a Ruger usually replace it with something else within a couple years in my experience. Savage does make accurate barrels, they may have other problems but accuracy was always pretty good from what I've seen.

    Ammo is also a big factor. Shooting a golden bucket of bullets or Thunderturds is going to give less than exciting results. CCI standard velocity is pretty much the minimum entry point here. Almost every match shooter uses standard velocity ammo, no precision high velocity ammo is made by any manufacturer. Unfortunately what you pay for directly correlates to grouping size in 22LR ammo. My cheapest match ammo is $5 a box and my most expensive is around $12 a box, but most of my matches are around the $5-$8 a box and do well at that price point. It's mostly the indian and not the arrow, but 22 ammo does have some real crap mixed in with even the good stuff once in a while.

    There are some decent 22 matches on the front range around denver and Hoser runs a great match down in Pueblo. IF you go to a match most ppl are pretty nice and this is the best place to learn what works and what fails. Seems every rifle works great when there isn't a clock time limit and points on the line for score. Lots of matches don't require club membership to attend either. Just show up, see some cool stuff and say hi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    Tikka or 455/457 is perfect.

    I shoot a Vudoo, but barreled actions are around $1500-1700.
    These are spot on. I started with a Tikka/Athlon and ended up with Vudoo/Nightforce. Ammo is important.


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