Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[waffles]

At the end of the day, former officer Derek Chauvin knelt on a man?s neck with 2, TWO, other officers holding him down, after he was cuffed, while he was pleading for air. NEVER did we do anything like that in Iraq when we *could* get away with murder, and frankly, some did.



I think hearts and minds are largely bullshit. Mess with the bull and you get the horns. But this inexcusable shit has got to stop if cops wanna live to see their families after each shift. It?s asshats like Derek Chauvin that cause MY friends, neighbors, and those I don?t know but have sworn to protect (and NOT violate basic human decency) to be in the potential crosshairs of the mob?s ire.

He was subdued. He had no weapon. What?s the worst that happens? They chase a handcuffed man and hit him with a taser?

The City of Minneapolis brought this on itself. Let it burn. They trusted his dumb ass to represent it, they can deal with the consequences.

Pretty much. I've got sympathy for all the property and business owners who are victims, but when I saw the cops ramming their own gate down to escape their station I can't say I was upset. If your department's culture is fucked enough that nobody is knocking you off the guy, this shit will happen.

[Bailey Guns]

The City of Minneapolis brought this on itself. Let it burn. They trusted his dumb ass to represent it, they can deal with the consequences.

Remember you said this when it happens to your home or business.

I can't even believe what I'm reading here. There's no excuse for what happened. None. I've already made it clear that's how I feel.

On the other hand, there's no excuse for what these thugs are doing to the city, either. Protesting is fine. March, carry signs, speak from the steps of the capital, blow up social media. But when you turn to anarchy and start destroying property and endangering people you become the problem. When you burn down businesses and police stations and loot and riot you are NOT protesting. You're now no better than the officers who killed this man. I don't care what anyone says this is not about race. This is an opportunity to be exploited by a lawless segment of society.

Way too many people have lost focus of what is right and what is wrong. This started at because of an injustice committed against one man. Continuing to go down the path of bringing injustice upon others who are innocent isn't fixing anything and isn't helping anything or anyone.

[CS1983]

Remember you said this when it happens to your home or business.

I can't even believe what I'm reading here. There's no excuse for what happened. None. I've already made it clear that's how I feel.

On the other hand, there's no excuse for what these thugs are doing to the city, either. Protesting is fine. March, carry signs, speak from the steps of the capital, blow up social media. But when you turn to anarchy and start destroying property and endangering people you become the problem. When you burn down businesses and police stations and loot and riot you are NOT protesting. You're now no better than the officers who killed this man. I don't care what anyone says this is not about race. This is an opportunity to be exploited by a lawless segment of society.

Way too many people have lost focus of what is right and what is wrong. This started at because of an injustice committed against one man. Continuing to go down the path of bringing injustice upon others who are innocent isn't fixing anything and isn't helping anything or anyone.

I thought my position on this society and all levels of government was clear: it?s done. There is no justice, just ?law?, which may or may not be applied equally. The government no longer fears the people, and that?s a problem. Government, Military, and Law Enforcement are beyond corrupt and every level needs an overhaul.

Does that mean every person in those organizations is corrupt and bad? Of course not. The good guys know who they are.

But, that doesn?t mean that something doesn?t need to happen to start real change.

Minneapolis isn?t rioting because of a good cop. They?re rioting because of a line of bad ones in the national consciousness. Because of what they see as a systemic problem.

If the system isn?t the problem, let it prove itself. I won?t hold my breath.

[Bailey Guns]

Minneapolis isn?t rioting because of a good cop. They?re rioting because of a line of bad ones in the national consciousness. Because of what they see as a systemic problem.

If the system isn?t the problem, let it prove itself. I won?t hold my breath.

Perhaps. Yes, there have been injustices by police officers and there will continue to be. But it's exceedingly rare when taken in context of the number of police encounters that are "routine". This appears to be one of those rare instances. But I think a solid argument could be made that the perception of those who see systemic injustices committed by police is seriously skewed. Most likely by a number of reasons.

The biggest culprit is the media. How often have we seen the police take action resulting in the death of a black person and immediately the calls of racism start? Then the accusations of uncalled for brutality by police begin immediately as well. Then the rioting and looting start. Meanwhile, as facts start to emerge, the false narrative of racism and brutality starts to be disproven by logic and facts through thorough investigation. Does that stop the perception? No. It never does. "Hands up, don't shoot", a flat out lie, becomes a rallying cry. And the narrative that says innocent black men are being killed in great numbers by police continues and it isn't true. I don't have numbers but I'd venture to say the police are accused of misconduct without proof far more often than it actually occurs.

It's gotten so bad that it's now an excuse to believe one's actions don't have consequences and because one's skin is a certain color they're immune from negative actions taken against them by police.

I'll be honest. I'm sick of that victimhood narrative. I've had it shoved down my throat so much that I almost just don't even care any longer because it's mostly bullshit. But it's perpetuated and encouraged by too many useful, leftist idiots in power that know how to exploit it for personal gain and a media that I believe is far more institutionally corrupt than government.

[buffalobo]

"There's a lot of hard working white, black, asian, latino, whatever people that have been seeing shit go the wrong way for a long time."


Pretty much covers everybody, what's the protest about?

[waffles]

"There's a lot of hard working white, black, asian, latino, whatever people that have been seeing shit go the wrong way for a long time."


Pretty much covers everybody, what's the protest about?

I'd say it's about a guy getting murdered by a police officer while his colleagues watched.

I responded to a poster who was surprised that so many white people were joining in, and got a post in return about how people just need to work harder and it'll be ok, to which I responded that a lot of people are working their asses off and are still needing to protest this shit.

[buffalobo]

I'd say it's about a guy getting murdered by a police officer while his colleagues watched.

I responded to a poster who was surprised that so many white people were joining in, and got a post in return about how people just need to work harder and it'll be ok, to which I responded that a lot of people are working their asses off and are still needing to protest this shit.

Protest or tear shit up?

I haven't seen much protest.

[Gman]

Protest or tear shit up?

I haven't seen much protest.

https://twitter.com/theangiestanton/...81829592399872

The Black community in MN is calling out white Antifa members for starting the riots and destroying their communities. I keep telling y’all these white liberals are not our friends. #Democrats #GeorgeFloyd #minneapolis

[buffalobo]

Easy on acting rabid, it's a discussion not the last morsel of food.

[waffles]

Funny, a lot of people seemed to find a lot of protest before the tear gas started in Denver at least.