Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[00tec]

How about DPD firing pepper balls at passing cars?
https://youtu.be/_cCwmAB5vc4

[MrAK]

This is exactly what I spoke about in an earlier post. At some point people need to start taking responsibility for their actions. I am not saying the officers were correct or justified in what they did and I'm not defending them. Having said that, let's just look at some facts of the situation:

It's after curfew. The man isn't even supposed to be on the street. He approaches a skirmish line of officers and appears to argue with them...about what I don't know. He reaches towards the officer on his right and may have even touched him or something on his belt. They were telling him to leave but he wasn't having any of it. Then he gets shoved...and it really wasn't a violent shove. He is not innocent in this situation. A third officer immediately, within seconds, appears to radio for medical assistance and it appears the guys in camo were medics/EMTs. It's very dangerous for officers to stop and focus on this guy while he's on the ground due to the risk of bottles and bricks and other objects being thrown at them. That's why they continued to advance. Not because they didn't want to assist.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for this guy. I don't think he "had it coming", but he chose to place himself into a dangerous situation. And I don't think the officer that shoved him at all meant for that to happen. He even looked very distressed by it. I think this is simply a situation that spiraled out of control based on poor decision making and poor reaction to that poor decision. Hindsight says the officers should've just handcuffed him and taken him into custody rather than try to push him back. But who knows how he would've reacted to that?

ETA: The part that pisses me off the most is now this asshat is gonna be rewarded for his piss poor decision making ability and two officers are in jeopardy of losing their jobs. This is the type of situation that normalizes bad behavior and costs everyone...not just those directly involved...a lot of wasted time, money and resources.

Makes me wonder what your thoughts are on women wearing dresses out after dark...

Was she really just asking to be raped?

[Bailey Guns]

Makes me wonder what your thoughts are on women wearing dresses out after dark...

Was she really just asking to be raped?

That is quite possibly the most stupid and ignorant analogy in the history of analogies.

[MrAK]

That is quite possibly the most stupid and ignorant analogy in the history of analogies.

I’m going to take that as you saying they all get what they deserve.

[buffalobo]

Makes me wonder what your thoughts are on women wearing dresses out after dark...

Was she really just asking to be raped?

"I know I'm just shouting into the void here, but goddamn guys, do a little but of thinking on this stuff. You can not like something, you can not agree with it, but try to have just a little intellectual honesty."

[DavieD55]

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[FoxtArt]

After watching what?s been going on, I?m beginning to wonder if the people looking for an excuse to agitate were also largely the police involved.

It?s sad that this behavior is commonplace amongst police at this time, makes me wonder how many jobs will be lost on the force or if cops won?t be held accountable for their actions.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/buffal...eed-from-head/

Rest assured, there is zero justification for what that officer did and there is support for his prosecution here.

Likewise, what one officer does is not used to cast judgment on the other 499,998 officers, much as video of a black, hispanic, or white individual looting a store isn't used to cast judgment on everyone of their respective races.

Irrespective of if a protester is in the wrong or right, an officer should use only appropriate and necessary force, and additionally in these circumstances, all need to be KEENLY aware of the optics.

Officers are under increased pressure these days, and unfortunately the tiny fraction of garbage (somewhere between 1/100 to 1/1000?) is now in an increased position to show their asses, and here the media is focused only on garbage, people get a false impression that the only thing on the road is garbage trucks.

A solution isn't about money, or training, it's somehow cleaving these pieces of garbage from the forces. However, I know of no pragmatic way to do that and that problem exists in EVERY career field, sometimes with far greater ratios (law, politics). Maybe if great minds focused on a resolution for that, we could ditch the questionaires and "lie detectors" which are currently used and do legitimate screening to wash out that shit, leaving only clean water.

[CS1983]

Looks like he was trying to return one of their helmets.

Seems like he should have worn it instead.

[Bailey Guns]

Looks like he was trying to return one of their helmets.

Seems like he should have worn it instead.

I'm thinking that's his motorcycle helmet.

[CS1983]

I'm thinking that's his motorcycle helmet.

Found a good still photo. Yes, it was a motorcycle helmet: