Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[Bailey Guns]

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She should’ve known better than to wear that skirt.

Makes me wonder about your position on the video of the cop in Washington stating that officers should ask them if what they’re doing is right.

I find it mind blowing that people can put so much effort in to rationalizing the use of extreme violence against fellow citizens.

Now I’m even wondering what your thoughts are on Breonna Taylor. Her boyfriend should have just rolled over and got shot too right? Shoot, maybe he shouldn’t have even contested the charges filed against him...

I see. So all you have is the ability to wonder. You don't have the ability to defend anything you've said. Now that you've made that abundantly clear let me ask you another question...which I doubt you'll answer.

Do you think the video we're discussing (I use that term loosely), that shows the man being shoved, is an example of "extreme violence"?

[CS1983]

If he didn't have it coming, then the officer was not correct or justified.

I don't see why it's so hard to just say that.

Also, that video is a perfect representation on why I refuse to fight anyone. The potential for a serious head injury (see his left hand all curled up to his chest and legs all rigid? That's bad) over what might amount to nothing is exactly why I consider any physical threat a mortal threat in potential.

[Bailey Guns]

If he didn't have it coming, then the officer was not correct or justified.

I don't see why it's so hard to just say that.

Also, that video is a perfect representation on why I refuse to fight anyone. The potential for a serious head injury (see his left hand all curled up to his chest and legs all rigid? That's bad) over what might amount to nothing is exactly why I consider any physical threat a mortal threat in potential.

Completely disagree with your first comment. His actions didn't rise to the level of a response from the police that would lead to serious bodily injury...which is what happened. On the other hand, I don't think anyone could have foreseen a simple shove like that resulting in what happened. Kind of an "unintended consequences" thing. I don't think a simple shove by officers in a skirmish line in a high risk area is unwarranted when they're approached by someone who's obviously a little agitated.

I agree with the second part about getting into fights. Hell...just walking down a flight of stairs with my physical issues is risk enough.

[MrAK]

I see. So all you have is the ability to wonder. You don't have the ability to defend anything you've said. Now that you've made that abundantly clear let me ask you another question...which I doubt you'll answer.

Do you think the video we're discussing (I use that term loosely), that shows the man being shoved, is an example of "extreme violence"?

Oh, you mean the assault that caused him to be flung to the ground and for blood to rush out of his ears? Do you mean the assault that has gotten those officers off of duty? Do you mean the exact same behavior we are seeing all over the country?
Yeah, I consider that extreme violence, and I say that while also knowing what the extent of extreme violence can encompass.

I answered your question, answer mine about the video of the cop telling other cops to do the right and constitutional thing, tell me your opinion on Beionna Taylor and her boyfriend being charged with attempted murder for shooting at home invaders.

[CS1983]

Completely disagree with your first comment. His actions didn't rise to the level of a response from the police that would lead to serious bodily injury...which is what happened. On the other hand, I don't think anyone could have foreseen a simple shove like that resulting in what happened. Kind of an "unintended consequences" thing. I don't think a simple shove by officers in a skirmish line in a high risk area is unwarranted when they're approached by someone who's obviously a little agitated.

I agree with the second part about getting into fights. Hell...just walking down a flight of stairs with my physical issues is risk enough.

If I shove someone and they fall down and get a serious brain injury, do you think I would be able to use the defense of, "I don't think anyone could have foreseen a simple shove like that resulting in what happened"?

Or would I be legally f'ed?

There's your answer.

[MrAK]

If I shove someone and they fall down and get a serious brain injury, do you think I would be able to use the defense of, "I don't think anyone could have foreseen a simple shove like that resulting in what happened"?

Or would I be legally f'ed?

There's your answer.

Yup

[Bailey Guns]

You can use any defense you want. Assault 1 and 2, which require SBI (which is obviously present here), have the element of intent. Intent is critical to proving an offense. I think you know that.

The DA doesn't just get to prove certain elements of an offense in a prosecution...he has to prove them all. And he has to prove them beyond a reasonable doubt.

Yup. There's your answer.

[Bailey Guns]

I answered your question, answer mine about the video of the cop telling other cops to do the right and constitutional thing, tell me your opinion on Beionna Taylor and her boyfriend being charged with attempted murder for shooting at home invaders.

No...you don't get to play "do as I say, not as I do". You're still ignoring my question re: explaining to me how a woman wearing a dress equals what happened in the video.

[MrAK]

You can use any defense you want. Assault 1 and 2, which require SBI (which is obviously present here), have the element of intent. Intent is critical to proving an offense. I think you know that.

The DA doesn't just get to prove certain elements of an offense in a prosecution...he has to prove them all. And he has to prove them beyond a reasonable doubt.

Yup. There's your answer.

Hey Bailey, still waiting on your answers to my questions.

[Bailey Guns]

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