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    Coming up on 24 hours, has there been any word from city "leaders" yet? I didn't see anything checking the usual news sites.
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    I'd say once the firearm is in your hand, it enters a different territory beyond just carrying in a holster or slung.

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    Call it what you want, but many of those, erm "Peaceful Protesters" with firearms certainly displayed them in a threatening manner. No charges; nothing. Yet, several years back I was almost arrested in my own front yard at 0100 in the morning for "felony menacing with a firearm" - when I hadn't even touched a firearm in over a week all because I went outside to see what the raucous was about (inconsiderate teenagers) and the teens didn't like it so they essentially SWAT'd me.

    I guess the law only applies to citizens who actually try to do the right and legal thing.
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    Yes, let's all agree there is no such thing as "brandishing" regarding a firearm in Colorado law. Mea culpa. Would a reasonable person believe the manner in which those individuals are carrying their rifles while confronting presumably non-threatening, non-violent citizens as menacing? Probably. Enough to get a conviction? Who knows? I learned a long time to never second guess what a jury will or won't do.

    Would said individuals in the vehicles been prudent to have a firearm of their own ready to use, even to being held out of sight of observers? Those protesters have long left the right to be considered "peaceful" somewhere along the trail. If those protesters keep on their path I fear things will go bad in short order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    It's actually menacing...a felony if committed with a deadly weapon. The actor has to knowingly place or attempt to place the victim in fear of serious bodily injury:


    18-3-206
    (1) A person commits the crime of menacing if, by any threat or physical action, he or she knowingly places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.  Menacing is a class 3 misdemeanor, but, it is a class 5 felony if committed:

    (a) By the use of a deadly weapon or any article used or fashioned in a manner to cause a person to reasonably believe that the article is a deadly weapon;  or

    (b) By the person representing verbally or otherwise that he or she is armed with a deadly weapon.


    Unless something's changed there's no such crime in the Colorado Revised Statutes as brandishing. Just pickin' nits...
    No nits picked. I for one appreciate the legit clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post

    Would said individuals in the vehicles been prudent to have a firearm of their own ready to use, even to being held out of sight of observers? Those protesters have long left the right to be considered "peaceful" somewhere along the trail. If those protesters keep on their path I fear things will go bad in short order.
    Dude in the blue pickup lived on that street. He went home and they continued to harass him and vandalize his truck. He came out with a gun to continue his "discussion" with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'd say once the firearm is in your hand, it enters a different territory beyond just carrying in a holster or slung.
    In CO. In AZ there is no brandishing, or menacing, etc. You're allowed to display a firearm to deter a threat, or a perceived one.
    Something the AZCDL was instrumental in getting changed here. Unlike the 24/7 pandering for DONATIONS ,TO STOP GUN CONTROL in CO by..............DB. Yet rarely seeming to get done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Dude in the blue pickup lived on that street. He went home and they continued to harass him and vandalize his truck. He came out with a gun to continue his "discussion" with them.
    Saw that, good for him, sounds like they left him alone when he did. That's they way it should be.

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