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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'd say once the firearm is in your hand, it enters a different territory beyond just carrying in a holster or slung.
    So if I get into an argument with someone and just lift my shirt, displaying my holstered gun and say "shut up" are you telling me that wouldn't be a crime? I have a feeling that would be even though the firearm wasn't in my hand.
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    I'm not telling you anything. I think it'd be a lot more difficult to argue intent once you've cleared leather and it's in your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    In CO. In AZ there is no brandishing, or menacing, etc. You're allowed to display a firearm to deter a threat, or a perceived one.
    Something the AZCDL was instrumental in getting changed here. Unlike the 24/7 pandering for DONATIONS ,TO STOP GUN CONTROL in CO by..............DB. Yet rarely seeming to get done.
    I have always been against calling the mere display of a firearm felony menacing. One must be able to bear arms to defend himself, which would rightly cause alarm in someone considering ill will against you. Otherwise, walking out of your house with a gun at the low ready to investigate a disturbance, alarm, riotous crowd, etc., would make you guilty of committing a felony. Be careful what you call for, it cuts both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm not telling you anything. I think it'd be a lot more difficult to argue intent once you've cleared leather and it's in your hand.
    Actually the first one who calls the cops, after showing a gun, wins. Providing it has not escalated after that point in time.
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    Is this a point for open carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by battlemidget View Post
    Is this a point for open carry?
    Open carrying what exactly, a rifle? You'll likely get tossed in the slammer for that. You are NOT a member of the protected class, so the mayor will tell the police to nail your hide to a barn door.

    Why open carry a handgun when you can conceal it legally. Why would anyone want to open carry a handgun, never let the enemy know what you have, you want to blend in and avoid problems, open carry negates that advantage and open carry negates the advantage of surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Open carrying what exactly, a rifle? You'll likely get tossed in the slammer for that. You are NOT a member of the protected class, so the mayor will tell the police to nail your hide to a barn door.

    Why open carry a handgun when you can conceal it legally. Why would anyone want to open carry a handgun, never let the enemy know what you have, you want to blend in and avoid problems, open carry negates that advantage and open carry negates the advantage of surprise.
    I agree completely, my 'maybe too subtle' point was that there's no right answer, there's risks and complications all around.

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    You and I and people like us are in a very grey area right now, very fluid, and the governments we thought would uphold the rule of law don't anymore.

    Government and the media has utterly failed us and created an environment hostile to truth and law and order.

    We have experienced a tremendous a blow to our senses.

    We are on our own and no one is coming to rescue us and if we rescue ourselves we will be prosecuted or killed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    You and I and people like us are in a very grey area right now, very fluid, and the governments we thought would uphold the rule of law don't anymore.

    Government and the media has utterly failed us and created an environment hostile to truth and law and order.

    We have experienced a tremendous a blow to our senses.

    We are on our own and no one is coming to rescue us and if we rescue ourselves we will be prosecuted or killed for it.
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