Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[RblDiver]

Meanwhile, over in Wisconsin, the governor doesn't just throw the police under the bus before any investigation is done, he runs over them a few times, and hits 'em with a baseball bat for good measure.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/...ke-in-kenosha/
"While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country."

[Bailey Guns]

I've only seen the short video and read the early reports so details are sketchy. But, on the surface, this looks like another (black) person who decides to completely ignore police officers and thinks he can do anything he wants. Raise your hand if you know better than to resist police officers then reach inside a vehicle with your back to them while they're trying to detain you.

He could've been reaching inside the car for something totally innocuous or he may have been reaching for a gun or other weapon. We just don't know at this point. Whatever it was he was trying to get to it was a poor decision that lead to his getting shot.

On the other hand, if he needed to be detained I'm not sure why the officers would just let him wander around the car to even get to a position where he could open a door and reach inside. If I were part of the investigation I'd wanna know why they didn't go hands on earlier in the contact and keep him away from the car.

This is a tough one and it's sure to raise the tension level significantly. Fuckin' people, man.

[Gman]

The guy had a warrant for domestic violence and a gun was found in the vehicle's console, from what I gleaned staying up way too late last night following the stupidity. He's also still alive.

[Bailey Guns]

The guy had a warrant for domestic violence and a gun was found in the vehicle's console...

Well there ya go. I'm sure he was just reaching into the car for his bible, though.

[Gman]

A collection of shhhtuff here regarding the evening's shenanigans: https://us24news.com/blog/2020/08/24...hed-at-police/

[Bailey Guns]

“While we do not have all of the details yet," the governor said in a statement, "what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country.”

I see the WI governor learned his lessons well on how to step on his dick from Obama. What's wrong with generic remarks that don't place blame until you know what the fuck you're talking about?

[Bailey Guns]

Where did you hear he had a gun in the car? I can't find a reference to that anywhere.

[Gman]

Where did you hear he had a gun in the car? I can't find a reference to that anywhere.

Reported on another forum by guys that also did the lookup for the warrant, but it's still regarded as 'rumor'. They apparently have information not yet made public. I'm still waiting for corroboration.

Sorry I wasn't clearer about that. I was up until 3:45am and still need another cup of coffee.

Shooting was after 5pm and full blown riots were only a few hours after, so the rioters also weren't waiting for the facts of the matter.

[OneGuy67]

On the other hand, if he needed to be detained I'm not sure why the officers would just let him wander around the car to even get to a position where he could open a door and reach inside. If I were part of the investigation I'd wanna know why they didn't go hands on earlier in the contact and keep him away from the car.

You know why, its optics due to the recent activity across the nation. Hell, one of our guys was told by his supervisor to not arrest black males due to the current environment. Can you believe that would have EVER been said at any other time?

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah, that's crazy. But this guy had already been tasered, apparently. Then he got up and tried to get inside his car.