Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[DavieD55]

EXCLUSIVE: As We Suspected Groups Behind the Riots Include Domestic Terrorists, Black Lives Matter, US Islamists and Others Linked to the Democrat Party

By Joe Hoft
Published June 1, 2020 at 7:38am
We reported a couple days ago that recent riots in the US in many Democrat-led cities around the country are hardly spontaneous. They appear coordinated.

We suspected these riots were related to the same individuals involved in similar activities over the past year or years. These people were related to US based Islamist Organizations, domestic terrorists and others related to the Democrat Party.

We were right!


There clearly was no reason for the mass riots taking place around the country after the death of the individual at the hands of the police in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Everyone who saw the police brutality was appalled and outraged at the sight of the policeman kneeling on the victims neck for an incredibly long period of time. The man died. But nothing warrants the wholesale destruction of property and and riots around the US since that event.

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[Great-Kazoo]

Please, go on about how the BLM movement is the same as the KKK. Id absolutely love to hear that.

You mean the Klan with a Tan?

Ok i'll give it a shot



Both founded and continue to exist based on lies.


the klan still believes they're superior to the lower races / POC's


BLM to this day still believes the
Hands Up , Don't Shoot lie that was a fabrication of st swishers partner in crime. Hell it's part of their ongoing playbook, for recruiting and agenda.

Who under questioning, admitted that's not what happened, at all . BUT BLM, the media, opinion writers as well as those, who for some reason ignore the results of Obamas DOJ, FBI and other agencies findings.

That truth is, brown ignored officer wilsons order and decided he was going to get in to a wrestling match for wilsons gun. Facts backed up later, by locals (also POC's) who at the time were afraid of the backlash from thugs and agitators to come forward.

[Bailey Guns]

Please, go on about how the BLM movement is the same as the KKK. Id absolutely love to hear that.

I'll give you a way their different:

The KKK is up front and open about their racism.

[waffles]

You mean the Klan with a Tan?

Ok i'll give it a shot



Both founded and continue to exist based on lies.


the klan still believes they're superior to the lower races / POC's


BLM to this day still believes the
Hands Up , Don't Shoot lie that was a fabrication of st swishers partner in crime. Hell it's part of their ongoing playbook, for recruiting and agenda.

Who under questioning, admitted that's not what happened, at all . BUT BLM, the media, opinion writers as well as those, who for some reason ignore the results of Obamas DOJ, FBI and other agencies findings.

That truth is, brown ignored officer wilsons order and decided he was going to get in to a wrestling match for wilsons gun. Facts backed up later, by locals (also POC's) who at the time were afraid of the backlash from thugs and agitators to come forward.

That's really your argument? That BLM is equivalent to the KKK, an organization that since reconstruction, especially during that time and again from the 20s through the height of our civil rights era, has spent its time terrorizing minorities to include widespread theft, rape, murder, arson, with the goal of a return to a segregated, and ideally slave based state, because their chant didn't match the final testimony regarding an event that happened after they were founded?

I know I'm just shouting into the void here, but goddamn guys, do a little but of thinking on this stuff. You can not like something, you can not agree with it, but try to have just a little intellectual honesty.

[Bailey Guns]

I know I'm just shouting into the void here, but goddamn guys, do a little but of thinking on this stuff. You can not like something, you can not agree with it, but try to have just a little intellectual honesty.

Would you "guys" please stop referring to one person you've quoted as "you guys" or "guys"? Try just a little intellectual honesty and realize you're answering or discussing with one person and not the forum in it's entirety.

[waffles]

Would you "guys" please stop referring to one person you've quoted as "you guys" or "guys"? Try just a little intellectual honesty and realize you're answering or discussing with one person and not the forum in it's entirety.

That's fair, but I've got no desire to limit it to Kazoo as he's not the only one who said it/agreed to it, nor the only one doing drive bys with easily replied to statements asking why doesn't BLM care about black on black violence, then ignoring the reply and going on to whatever else.

I've been teetering on this forum for awhile, I've met some cool people on here, and I really liked when we talked about guns, or when we could discuss current events without getting to the point of craziness like "BLM is the African American KKK" and being the only one saying hey this is pretty fucking out there. I'll go ahead and leave everybody to it, I don't think I'm changing anybody's mind on anything and we're not even in a fact-based argument at this point, and seems to be that way on on a lot of things. I'd advise everyone to seriously take stock of why they don't like particular movements rather than going into whataboutism, and to also consider that other groups succeeding doesn't necessarily take away from you, and may even have a nice "rising tide lifts all boats" impact. Not everybody has to be your enemy, and you (and the gun community as a whole) are missing out on chances to both acknowledge issues in the world and gain new 2A supporters, especially younger ones, who are coming around on the need to be armed for traditional 2A reasons, even if they don't agree with you on a lot of other things.

[MrAK]

After watching what?s been going on, I?m beginning to wonder if the people looking for an excuse to agitate were also largely the police involved.

It?s sad that this behavior is commonplace amongst police at this time, makes me wonder how many jobs will be lost on the force or if cops won?t be held accountable for their actions.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/buffal...eed-from-head/

[Bailey Guns]

After watching what?s been going on, I?m beginning to wonder if the people looking for an excuse to agitate were also largely the police involved.

It?s sad that this behavior is commonplace amongst police at this time, makes me wonder how many jobs will be lost on the force or if cops won?t be held accountable for their actions.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/buffal...eed-from-head/

This is exactly what I spoke about in an earlier post. At some point people need to start taking responsibility for their actions. I am not saying the officers were correct or justified in what they did and I'm not defending them. Having said that, let's just look at some facts of the situation:

It's after curfew. The man isn't even supposed to be on the street. He approaches a skirmish line of officers and appears to argue with them...about what I don't know. He reaches towards the officer on his right and may have even touched him or something on his belt. They were telling him to leave but he wasn't having any of it. Then he gets shoved...and it really wasn't a violent shove. He is not innocent in this situation. A third officer immediately, within seconds, appears to radio for medical assistance and it appears the guys in camo were medics/EMTs. It's very dangerous for officers to stop and focus on this guy while he's on the ground due to the risk of bottles and bricks and other objects being thrown at them. That's why they continued to advance. Not because they didn't want to assist.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for this guy. I don't think he "had it coming", but he chose to place himself into a dangerous situation. And I don't think the officer that shoved him at all meant for that to happen. He even looked very distressed by it. I think this is simply a situation that spiraled out of control based on poor decision making and poor reaction to that poor decision. Hindsight says the officers should've just handcuffed him and taken him into custody rather than try to push him back. But who knows how he would've reacted to that?

ETA: The part that pisses me off the most is now this asshat is gonna be rewarded for his piss poor decision making ability and two officers are in jeopardy of losing their jobs. This is the type of situation that normalizes bad behavior and costs everyone...not just those directly involved...a lot of wasted time, money and resources.

[00tec]

How about DPD firing pepper balls at passing cars?
https://youtu.be/_cCwmAB5vc4

[MrAK]

This is exactly what I spoke about in an earlier post. At some point people need to start taking responsibility for their actions. I am not saying the officers were correct or justified in what they did and I'm not defending them. Having said that, let's just look at some facts of the situation:

It's after curfew. The man isn't even supposed to be on the street. He approaches a skirmish line of officers and appears to argue with them...about what I don't know. He reaches towards the officer on his right and may have even touched him or something on his belt. They were telling him to leave but he wasn't having any of it. Then he gets shoved...and it really wasn't a violent shove. He is not innocent in this situation. A third officer immediately, within seconds, appears to radio for medical assistance and it appears the guys in camo were medics/EMTs. It's very dangerous for officers to stop and focus on this guy while he's on the ground due to the risk of bottles and bricks and other objects being thrown at them. That's why they continued to advance. Not because they didn't want to assist.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for this guy. I don't think he "had it coming", but he chose to place himself into a dangerous situation. And I don't think the officer that shoved him at all meant for that to happen. He even looked very distressed by it. I think this is simply a situation that spiraled out of control based on poor decision making and poor reaction to that poor decision. Hindsight says the officers should've just handcuffed him and taken him into custody rather than try to push him back. But who knows how he would've reacted to that?

ETA: The part that pisses me off the most is now this asshat is gonna be rewarded for his piss poor decision making ability and two officers are in jeopardy of losing their jobs. This is the type of situation that normalizes bad behavior and costs everyone...not just those directly involved...a lot of wasted time, money and resources.

Makes me wonder what your thoughts are on women wearing dresses out after dark...

Was she really just asking to be raped?