Gonna be a mess - got an excuse to agitate

[MrPrena]

^ dumbest defense attorney ever.

I would not even trust this guy to so PI survalence work for defense team.

[hollohas]

I have to wonder the overlap or venn diagram of those who told small business owners and people worried about losing their jobs to sit down and shut up about getting back to work during covid with those who find it perfectly fine to protest with 30 thousand people all yelling and chanting right in someone elses face.

It'd basically just be one circle.

[Great-Kazoo]

unofficially (no media coverage) 500+ NYPD resigned between sunday night & monday morn. . There's mixed feeling over a PD wide blue flu sick day, atm.
Subject to change, depending how much stupider DiBallless gets .

[FoxtArt]

Hrm. If they disband, who is going to seize these huge arsenals of 3 guns and 100 rounds of .22 we see in the news?

[Gman]

Who will enforce the gun control laws?

Why would I need a drivers license and insurance if nobody pulls me over? I can take my chances driving drunk, since nobody will stop me. Do traffic signals and signs matter when I can't get a ticket?

If there's nobody to stop me or charge me with a crime, I can just take and do whatever I want, right?

[whitewalrus]

Who will enforce the gun control laws?

Why would I need a drivers license and insurance if nobody pulls me over? I can take my chances driving drunk, since nobody will stop me. Do traffic signals and signs matter when I can't get a ticket?

If there's nobody to stop me or charge me with a crime, I can just take and do whatever I want, right?

That?s the problem with laws, no enforcement = you really don?t have one. More a suggestion of what you should do.

[Gman]

I don't usually agree with unions, but, wow, someone had to say it:


(first 2 minutes is a roll-call for all of the reps from the NY LE union reps)

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't usually agree with unions, but, wow, someone had to say it:


(first 2 minutes is a roll-call for all of the reps from the NY LE union reps)

typical NY'er guy in the back, no mask and chewing gum.




HEY is that the fonz, talking

[CS1983]

That is what leadership looks like. It doesn't write snarky crap on twitter, and it doesn't kowtow to the narrative being pushed by ideological enemies. It doubles down and pounds the table on what the narrative is, while acknowledging where something actually is wrong, and refuses to fight on the rhetorical terrain being dictated by the enemy.

I never thought I'd praise a yankee police union president, but there ya have it.

That being said, I want nothing to do with cops unless they're off duty and I know them personally, as I do know some. Will it be a good interaction, or will I get a Mitch Brailsford with an itchy trigger finger who airs out my insides despite me doing every thing possible to follow confusing directions? I dunno. I don't go petting stray pitbulls for the same reason: their kind, as a whole, have done nothing to earn my trust.

So yeah, the PBA president and others are right, but police across the nation have some real work to do. For starters, they can stop acting like it's "us vs them".

Unfortunately for them, that will largely require more pay and stricter requirements both for entrance AND retention, along with what amounts to getting smashed by the hammer of the law when they are shown to have done something wrong, or have a history of infractions, even minor infractions.

They won't get more pay, and the entrance and retention requirements will be "feel good" and punitive rather than helpful.

[clodhopper]

I am guessing the typical police force has experienced the same thing I have seen in other security organizations. There have been so many soldiers returning from the never-ending ME wars looking for work, many are snapped up into security and probably policing. Habits and previous training can be a hard thing to change. It certainly reinforces the idea of Us vs Them as soldiers are trained very differently from police.

I haven't interfaced enough with general police forces to see this for sure, but I have interfaced with federal organizations, border patrol and a wide variety of security organizations at industrial facilities. WAY too many of them approach the stateside job with the same gusto they were trained to use over there. Every contact with them starts off on a very wrong foot. There are a few reasonable ones in the ranks but certainly not enough.