Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
I'm talking a little out of school here, but when your training goes out the window at first contact, you don't have enough training.

That people do drugs is not any kind of argument. So what? People do drugs so don't have training?
Honestly...you really don't know what you're talking about here. So how much hand-to-hand do you think cops get? I don't recall specifically but it was probably about 40 hours total throughout the academy and then 8 hrs here and there each year.

Not to mention much of police control tactics are as much about compliance as they are control. Certain holds, arm bars, etc...are pain compliance techniques. When someone doesn't feel pain, like when they're on drugs, that shit doesn't work. It also doesn't work when the suspect is much bigger than you, or when he's trying to get your gun, or whatever. And you have to worry about his buddies, his girlfriend, other drunks that wanna help right the injustice being done to fellow drunk at the hands of police, etc...

It's not as simple as saying, "needs more training".