Atlanta Shooting

[Irving]

That's not exactly a good thing to be known for, on a gun forum started by an LEO.

Objection your honor. Relevance?

[sako55]

I lived the reality of a loved one not coming home from their watch. Trust me, the family want him home.

People with dangerous jobs do say that. I deal with a another type of safety sensitive job. We do talk that way. Wouldn’t call it rhetoric but maybe cliche. There are multiple was of saying It but the underlying tone of it all is stay safe.

Yes everyone wants to go home at the end of the day and everyone does what they can to make that happen.

[buffalobo]

Objection your honor. Relevance?

Overruled, argumentative.

[Irving]

I lived the reality of a loved one not coming home from their watch. Trust me, the family want him home.


People with dangerous jobs do say that. I deal with a another type of safety sensitive job. We do talk that way. Wouldn’t call it rhetoric but maybe cliche. There are multiple was of saying It but the underlying tone of it all is stay safe.


Yes everyone wants to go home at the end of the day and everyone does what they can to make that happen.

We've all lost loved ones too soon, and in the end it doesn't matter if they were serving the community, or had a run in with cancer. I haven't bought a crotch rocket ever since I've been able to afford one, because I want to come home at night for my family. I get touchy and refer to it as rhetoric because in the context of this discussion, and police work, I feel it's often thrown around as a defense for bad behavior. That might sound like splitting hairs, but with the heightened emotions of the discussion, I'm sure you can understand. Just as I understand the people who spend so much time defending police officers as a whole, that they tend to forget to address the actions of the bad ones and gloss over the perceptions of the non-police community.

As I've said before, almost every angle of this discussion has some truth to it. People are upset about mostly outlier events. Everyone is mad, and everyone is right. It's not a simple, or comfortable discussion and will take acceptance and understanding from all sides to actually get anywhere.

[buffalobo]

So listening to scanner for 6th precinct in Atlanta for 2-3 hrs tonite and almost no radio traffic and what there was sounded as if it was informing officers to not leave personal effects in the precinct?

Eerie quiet and 15,000+ people listening.

[Irving]

Enter: Blue Flu / Corona Virus ven diagram with overlapping section labeled: Atlanta

[Bailey Guns]

So listening to scanner for 6th precinct in Atlanta for 2-3 hrs tonite and almost no radio traffic and what there was sounded as if it was informing officers to not leave personal effects in the precinct?

Eerie quiet and 15,000+ people listening.

I listened to it as well and agree...it was pretty quiet for Atlanta. I also heard a few calls that were pretty much just ignored. I think some in Atlanta are glossing over the seriousness of the fallout regarding some of their piss poor leadership in that city.

[Bailey Guns]

I hope that it's allergies or a cold she has. Praying! Let us know.

I think his daughter is fine. I think she was talking about what she might say if she were an Atlanta officer.

I could be wrong on that...hope not.

[Bailey Guns]

We've all lost loved ones too soon, and in the end it doesn't matter if they were serving the community, or had a run in with cancer.

Wow... Of course it matters. For a variety of reasons.

[Bailey Guns]

No offense BG but I was told many years ago (by a LEO BTW) that you can assume that 10% of the people you encounter are scumbags. Surgeons, teachers, cab drivers, cops, poker managers, etc. Their profession doesn't matter - they're people. I have found this to be pretty accurate for the 20 years since I heard it for the first time.

OK. Let's assume 10% is true (I think that's probably a little high, but whatever). A 90/10 ratio is still a pretty overwhelming number. If you had those odds of winning when you played the lottery would you play more often than you do? I would.

I don't think only the most honorable among us are cops.

I'm going to try to respond without getting totally frustrated by this statement. Let me refer you to what I said in post #105 of this thread:

I didn't say that.

Here's what I actually said.

Here's what I believe. There are some cops that are "bad". They are very, very few in number in relation to the number of officers in the country. I believe the overwhelming majority of police officers in this country are honorable.