SCOTUS just gave half of Oklahoma back to the Indians?

[Gman]

I read an article earler today in the Tulsa World that was pretty good:
Supreme Court hands Oklahoma a loss on tribal lands fight

Jonodev Chaudhuri, ambassador of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation and a former chief justice of the tribe's Supreme Court, said the argument about legal havoc in the state was overblown.

?All the sky-is-falling narratives were dubious at best," Chaudhuri said. ?This would only apply to a small subset of Native Americans committing crimes within the boundaries.

?This case didn?t change ownership of any land. It didn?t impact the prosecutions of non-Indians in any way. All it did was bring clarity to jurisdictional questions regarding the border, and it enhanced the Creek Nation's ability as a sovereign nation to work with other sovereign interests to protect people and to work in common interests."

Forrest Tahdooahnippah, a Comanche Nation citizen and attorney who specializes in tribal law, said the ruling's short-term implications are largely confined to the criminal context and that serious felonies committed by Native Americans in parts of eastern Oklahoma will be subject to federal jurisdiction.

?In the long term, outside of the criminal context, there may be some minor changes in civil law," he said. ?The majority opinion points out assistance with Homeland Security, historical preservation, schools, highways, clinics, housing, and nutrition programs, as possible changes. The Creek Nation will also have greater jurisdiction over child welfare cases involving tribal members."

An analysis published in The Atlantic notes of a possible estimated 1,887 impacted cases, fewer than 10% appeared to qualify for a new trial based on a statutory one-year time limit to file for relief.

[cstone]

Daler Mehndi - Tunak Tunak Tun

Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I haven't enjoyed anything as much since Opa Gungnam Style.

[Bailey Guns]

When that video first started I thought it was going to be like the Hindi version of Kung Fu Fighting.

[Great-Kazoo]

It’s not as black and white as one might think. With rare exception, traveling in Oklahoma, even on recognized tribal land, is like anywhere else. There is tribal law enforcement, but it’s definitely not like traveling through a res in Utah or South Dakota where there are clear “we ain’t in Kansas anymore” boundaries. In general, tribal land has some idiosyncratic things, but it’s a very unique situation compared to other places in that there’s really not that much special about the day to day.

Also, Oklahoma’s so-called Constitutional Carry is kinda crap. The licensed carriers still have more leeway on things. For example, an unlicensed carrier can not enter any establishment that serves any alcohol. CCW just can’t carry in bars.

That's like down in Prescott. Almost all the commercial property / business in Prescott is on the Yavapai rez. Unless you're familiar with the invisible boundaries, it's no different than crossing from Arvada to Wheatridge.

EXCEPT with interdepartmental jurisdiction agreement. You can run afoul of Prescott P.D. YCSO, ADPS (state patrol) and of course the BIA / Rez police. And of course depending how they decide to charge & prosecute the Feds.

[MrPrena]

Off topic.
That Daler Mehndi - Tunak Tunak Tun video went viral early 2000s, and had very low budget. Now, many international music artist now should get that they should make memorable music video. It doesn't matter it is silly funny, stupid funny, or funny funny. As long as it is memorable, it would go viral.

I wanted to use this music video on our wedding, but my mother-in-law thought it wasn't a great idea.


As for Gang Nam Style, I was surprised Psy will make video like that. Funny and memorable. Least person to expect. K-pop fanbois told me that Psy use to do kinda psychotic music prior to Gang Nam Style.




On topic:

I assume it will be More federal land inside the state of OK. I want to read more in detail how govt would do this. In order to have less headache, i assume they would have to get lands which are not occupied by residents, cities, etc. If so, it will piss of many many people including some natives who owns a property there.

[Irving]

I recently had some work on the SD res. I handled myself in the same somewhat aloof manner that I always do. In retrospect, it was cringe worthy. When I was done, I couldn't get off the res fast enough, even though absolutely nothing went wrong.

[Bailey Guns]

The house we bought in ID was on the Nez Perce reservation. No different than buying anywhere else. We weren't subject to any Tribal laws or policies.

[CS1983]

I recently had some work on the SD res. I handled myself in the same somewhat aloof manner that I always do. In retrospect, it was cringe worthy. When I was done, I couldn't get off the res fast enough, even though absolutely nothing went wrong.

One of the guys I still stay in touch with in Oklahoma is Lakota, and his biological family is all on the res in South Dakota. He was adopted by an indian couple (mix of creek, cherokee, etc.) and brought to Oklahoma as a baby. He said being adopted was the best thing that ever happened to him. He goes every once in a while to visit his Lakota family and said it's awful between the rampant alcoholism and paint huffing, to just the general poverty.

[Irving]

It was my first time on a reservation so I have nothing to compare it to. It wasn't in great shape though, I can tell you that.

[Honey Badger282.8]

Basically, if you’re not a member of a tribe and don’t commit a crime against a member of a tribe, this has zero effect on you.