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SCOTUS just gave half of Oklahoma back to the Indians?
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What in the holy hell is happening in this countryOriginally Posted by Zundfolge
No they didn't.
Some more information in these two threads (along with a bunch of crap):
https://old.reddit.com/r/tulsa/comme...homa_a_native/
https://old.reddit.com/r/oklahoma/co..._creek_nation/
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Without reading more details, I'd be really curious how this applies to CCW holders in Oklahoma.
If someone happened to already live in the areas that were defined to be part of the tribal lands and owned firearms....
Here is the relevant statute for the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Tribe
"Title 14. Crimes and Punishments
Chapter 2. Criminal Offenses
Subchapter 6. Crimes Against Public Safety
? 2–620. Carrying concealed weapon
It shall be unlawful for any person to carry and conceal on or about his person any firearm, pistol, rifle or other deadly weapon whether
loaded or unloaded. Provided, that this section will not be applicable to law enforcement officers and security guards duly authorized or
certified to carry arms or persons issued a valid Concealed Weapons Permit or licensed by another Indian Tribe, state or the federal
government in accordance with the provisions of MCNCA Title 16, ? 4–114. Provided, nothing in this section shall authorize a carrier of
a Concealed Weapons Permit or license to carry weapons into gaming establishments, said authorization which is governed by MCNCA
Title"
I'm guessing they'll be fine, and that this is really only going to impact a few other legal things, namely tribal court cases.
Regardless, I certainly didn't have this on my 2020 bingo card.
Last edited by nighterfighter; 07-09-2020 at 16:59.
Especially since Oklahoma is a Constitutional Carry state.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
You are right, I forgot about that. I know that permits are still issued. From reading the text of the statute, it would appear even with constitutional carry firearms are not permitted.
I'm assuming that most people in Oklahoma knew to avoid the tribal lands while carrying, but since those boundaries have radically changed, I'm guessing a lot of people already live/work/drive through those areas on a daily basis.
What would be more amusing if they said the "sale" of Manhattan was null and void due to malfeasance.
It’s not as black and white as one might think. With rare exception, traveling in Oklahoma, even on recognized tribal land, is like anywhere else. There is tribal law enforcement, but it’s definitely not like traveling through a res in Utah or South Dakota where there are clear “we ain’t in Kansas anymore” boundaries. In general, tribal land has some idiosyncratic things, but it’s a very unique situation compared to other places in that there’s really not that much special about the day to day.
Also, Oklahoma’s so-called Constitutional Carry is kinda crap. The licensed carriers still have more leeway on things. For example, an unlicensed carrier can not enter any establishment that serves any alcohol. CCW just can’t carry in bars.
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The consensus here is the only thing that's really gonna change is how and where certain crimes are prosecuted. It seems to be much ado about not much. But, there are always unintended consequences to these types of rulings.
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