Polis to mandate masks across the state

[.455_Hunter]

... the rest of us "don't get it" or we're uninformed because we don't wear a mask.

Bailey- I think you have made it perfectly clear in past threads where you think plenty of people "don't get it" or are "uninformed" about topics with which you are familiar.

[Eric P]

Time to remove this kind of power from the government, at all levels

[.455_Hunter]

Yeah, me too.

We at least you have a source for your position that you can validate on its merits.

Out of public interest, what are they doing in the casinos for mitigation?

[CS1983]

I posted a thing via a microbiology masters student who is in the ?tighten up my thesis formatting? stage of that degree, who was sent the content of the post by a PhD in virology. The basic consensus was masks might work. Maybe. But they don?t know.

Masks are a barrier to something which is wayyy tinier than their pores 9.9/10 times. They no more stop Covid than a pair of underwear and yoga pants stop a fart. Yeah, someone?s shart might not hit me, but their flatulence-19? Totally up the nose. Why? Because people aren?t wearing the sort of mask that actually stops something that small.

Today I saw a guy at work wearing gloves and mask while moving three floors and 2 labs away, constantly touching everything including his personal effects which he will, undoubtedly, touch with bare hands.

We are in the realm of superstition at this point. Not science.

[Ramsker]

To me, wearing a mask is just another layer of protection--along with having hand sanitizer on hand and washing hands often. I'm 52, but generally healthy as a horse. So I'm not freaked out that I'll have a bad time with it if I get it . . . but I'm not poo-poo'ing it and am not in any hurry to test my luck, either. I have N95 masks and some KN95 and KN90 masks. I wear one when I go to public places or places where there are at risk people--stores, the gym, my mom's house, etc. When I've gone to the gym, I'm one of maybe 4 people wearing a mask of any kind. So I'll be interested to see if Polis' mandate is enforced next time I go. I don't wear one when I'm riding my bike or walking on the trails.

It's a pretty minor inconvenience IMHO. I don't love wearing one when lifting weights, but it's not a big deal by any stretch. If it gives me a slightly higher edge to prevent catching COVID or passing it along, then that's fine. Others can choose to do what they want. Douglas County mentioned on the latest conference cal that their estimates from random checks at busy locations was that upwards of 80% of people are wearing masks of some kind. The county numbers are still pretty low (although creeping up). Coincidence? No idea. Maybe yes, maybe no.

Interesting video from a doctor on airborne transmission and masks. Mask part starts at about 11:20.

[Scanker19]

I’d argue that wearing maks gives a sense of Artificial safety causing people to be more risky in their behavior. I.E. going out and about more often than not. Thus any effectiveness of the masks is kind of reduced a or even eliminated al together.

I’d also argue that using just numbers for cases means Jack and shit if the percent isn’t complied as well. 5 positive cases out of 10 is a lot 50 out of a thousand not so much.

I’d also argue that, and let me adjust my tin foil a bit, but I think they (powers that be) want us to be bickering about this right now. I don’t believe masks work or do fuck all other than make people feel safer. If you’re that worried about you or your self or someone else, maybe stay home, encourage them to stay home. The health and well being of other isn’t my concern. If someone is so worried about catching this by working at Walmart then maybe not work there? Oh but you need money... well then you did a risk cost analysis in your head and decided it was worth it. If you think a piece of cloth is going to stop this then I have a bridge to sell you.... on November 4th

[Irving]

I like this thread. Maybe it's my unusually good mood, but despite all the bickering, I think it needs to be out there so everyone can see each other's points of view.

I'm going to Hawaii in October. Currently, if you fly into Hawaii, you have to quarantine for 14 days, which is longer than my trip. If you take a test before you leave and come up negative, then you're good to go. Does it make me a sheep to not want to forfeit thousands of dollars to have none of my family test positive right in time to sink the family vacation?

[Big E3]

A guy on the radio today made a good point. Wearing a mask is like using a chain link fence to keep mosquitos out.

[GilpinGuy]

We at least you have a source for your position that you can validate on its merits.

Out of public interest, what are they doing in the casinos for mitigation?

FYI, my silly post wasn't directed at you.

There are many sources for BOTH sides of the issue. I don't blindly follow one or the other. Our family doc told us that for US (my family) wearing masks would have a greater chance of having us get some microbial infection from moisture growing nasties and advised to not wear one unless mandated. Awesome. Now its mandated by Government. But I guess I'm a "selfish bastard" for wanting to protect myself and my kids. WTF?

Before casino work I was a geologist for 10+ years using microbes to degrade hydrocarbons and other pollutants from spills, leaks, etc. to what the State declared "accptable" levels. It was absurd to spend hundreds of thousands or even millions of tax dollars in some cases to clean up a few hundred gallons of gasoline in the middle of nowhere that would have no impact of anyone and would degrade on their own eventually anyway. A site in Brush comes to mind. Every time I drive by there 20 years later I think about what a waste of time and money that was. And that's why I stopped sucking off the taxpayer tit and really have no faith in what ANY politician says.

To answer your question (which I hope wasn't a veiled insult), casinos are doing the State mandated mask thing for guests and staff, doing temp checks at the door, enforcing distancing when possible (which is a joke), increased sanitization by housekeepers, etc.

I've been deemed non-essential for 4+ months now - poker and table games are still not allowed by the government - so I'm still furloughed. We got word today that it will be at least 2 more weeks before the powers that be make another judgement on our livelihoods. Unemployment will run out in a few weeks. Sweet.

Some say, "Just go out and get another job". Sure, a 50 something dude that built a 20 year career on something suddely deemed non-essential (though pot, booze, tattoos, etc. are) can just go out and make the same doing what? Delivering pizza? Painting? 7-11 cashier? Uber?

I have a few ideas for doing something else but it would involve serious family disruption, uncertainty and most likely moving us out of this state. Maybe this is what we need to finally do that.

I know I'm not the only one in this position but it is REALLY frustrating. Gilpin County has had 8 cases and not not one fatality. MUST WEAR MASK NOW! Seriously?

Rant over. I regret getting involved in this thread.

[Gman]

I like this thread. Maybe it's my unusually good mood, but despite all the bickering, I think it needs to be out there so everyone can see each other's points of view.

I'm going to Hawaii in October. Currently, if you fly into Hawaii, you have to quarantine for 14 days, which is longer than my trip. If you take a test before you leave and come up negative, then you're good to go. Does it make me a sheep to not want to forfeit thousands of dollars to have none of my family test positive right in time to sink the family vacation?

The magical "14 days". Another arbitrary number that has been repeated enough that people take it as "science". It's as effective as the barber shop checking my temperature before I get a haircut. Many people with Covid-19 don't show signs of fever.



It'd be more fun if you were "stuck in Hawaii 'cuz Covid" for an extra 14 days, but it might get expensive.

Was just looking at the Tri-County statistics. DougCo has had a total of 185 hospitilizations for C-19. I think we had plenty of capacity to handle that. There have been 54 deaths and the average age was 63. The response for this shouldn't be handled at the Fed. or even State level. If you're in a county that isn't having a problem, trying to mandate a response is a bad idea IMO.

There are large chunks of this country that have been unaffected by the virus. Virtually nowhere in this country has been unaffected by the govt. response to the virus.