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    Default 9th Circuit ends California ban on high-capacity magazines


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    Damn beat me to it. But it will not be challenged any further to the Supreme Court. So now what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindfold View Post
    Damn beat me to it. But it will not be challenged any further to the Supreme Court. So now what?
    Colorado has a mag limit and California won't (for awhile)? Talk about irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindfold View Post
    Damn beat me to it. But it will not be challenged any further to the Supreme Court. So now what?


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    There will be an en banc rehearing by the 9th Circuit which will uphold the law. They can choose to rehear it on their own without anybody even requesting a rehearing, a process called sua sponte en banc.

    This decision was by a 3-judge panel. If a majority of the 29 judges on the 9th Circuit vote to rehear the case it's essentially a do-over, with anywhere from 11 to all 29 judges getting to hear and decide the case. Since there are a lot more liberal judges than conservatives in the pool, it should be obvious how this will turn out.

    Edit to add: this is exactly what happened in Peruta v. County of San Diego which was challenging the "may issue" concealed carry scheme in California. When it got to the 9th Circuit, the 3-judge panel declared the system unconstitutional since California banned open carry by statute. Well the powers that be didn't like that decision, so whip out an en banc and no more win for gun rights.

    The only thing I'm potentially jealous of is if the CO ban was incapacitated even for one day, they would have to reset the date of grandfathered mags to a future date and not 2013. That would legitimize a lot of people's "rebuild kits". I have no such kits since I stocked up ahead of time, but just saying. Or I guess they could just go the CA way and ban with no grandfathering, especially since it's about to get upheld in another circuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    There will be an en banc rehearing by the 9th Circuit which will uphold the law. They can choose to rehear it on their own without anybody even requesting a rehearing, a process called sua sponte en banc.

    This decision was by a 3-judge panel. If a majority of the 29 judges on the 9th Circuit vote to rehear the case it's essentially a do-over, with anywhere from 11 to all 29 judges getting to hear and decide the case. Since there are a lot more liberal judges than conservatives in the pool, it should be obvious how this will turn out.

    Edit to add: this is exactly what happened in Peruta v. County of San Diego which was challenging the "may issue" concealed carry scheme in California. When it got to the 9th Circuit, the 3-judge panel declared the system unconstitutional since California banned open carry by statute. Well the powers that be didn't like that decision, so whip out an en banc and no more win for gun rights.

    The only thing I'm potentially jealous of is if the CO ban was incapacitated even for one day, they would have to reset the date of grandfathered mags to a future date and not 2013. That would legitimize a lot of people's "rebuild kits". I have no such kits since I stocked up ahead of time, but just saying. Or I guess they could just go the CA way and ban with no grandfathering, especially since it's about to get upheld in another circuit.
    Translation: we are subjects, subjected to the capricious whims of oligarchs. Hence, many of us choose to approach the “government” like what it is: a mafia. Ergo, many of us simply recognize power and not authority. Hence, many of us actually don’t follow the “law” so much as work within the grey areas and just do what we want as long as it doesn’t violate our conscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    Translation: we are subjects, subjected to the capricious whims of oligarchs. Hence, many of us choose to approach the “government” like what it is: a mafia. Ergo, many of us simply recognize power and not authority. Hence, many of us actually don’t follow the “law” so much as work within the grey areas and just do what we want as long as it doesn’t violate our conscience.
    Nicely said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    There will be an en banc rehearing by the 9th Circuit which will uphold the law. They can choose to rehear it on their own without anybody even requesting a rehearing, a process called sua sponte en banc.

    This decision was by a 3-judge panel. If a majority of the 29 judges on the 9th Circuit vote to rehear the case it's essentially a do-over, with anywhere from 11 to all 29 judges getting to hear and decide the case. Since there are a lot more liberal judges than conservatives in the pool, it should be obvious how this will turn out.

    Edit to add: this is exactly what happened in Peruta v. County of San Diego which was challenging the "may issue" concealed carry scheme in California. When it got to the 9th Circuit, the 3-judge panel declared the system unconstitutional since California banned open carry by statute. Well the powers that be didn't like that decision, so whip out an en banc and no more win for gun rights.

    The only thing I'm potentially jealous of is if the CO ban was incapacitated even for one day, they would have to reset the date of grandfathered mags to a future date and not 2013. That would legitimize a lot of people's "rebuild kits". I have no such kits since I stocked up ahead of time, but just saying. Or I guess they could just go the CA way and ban with no grandfathering, especially since it's about to get upheld in another circuit.
    The question is...will they rehear and possibly over turn the decision and risk it going to the Supreme Court where they might decide in our favor on a national level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    The question is...will they rehear and possibly over turn the decision and risk it going to the Supreme Court where they might decide in our favor on a national level.
    I’ve read justice Thomas say something to the effect that the progun side of the supreme court doesn’t think they have the majority yet so rather than risk getting a bad decision they have been rejecting cases that some of them would really like to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    I’ve read justice Thomas say something to the effect that the progun side of the supreme court doesn’t think they have the majority yet so rather than risk getting a bad decision they have been rejecting cases that some of them would really like to hear.
    In other words, no one trusts Roberts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumline View Post
    There will be an en banc rehearing by the 9th Circuit which will uphold the law...
    If a majority of the 29 judges on the 9th Circuit vote to rehear the case it's essentially a do-over, with anywhere from 11 to all 29 judges getting to hear and decide the case.
    Interesting.
    Can you explain why the numbers don't make sense?

    Why would only 11 be able to decide?

    I can speculate, but I'm just a cook.

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