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[BladesNBarrels]

I'm not judging you or what you do with your life. But I'm gathering from your other posts that you're about 32 years old, kind of adrift in life in not knowing exactly what you want to do, have limited finances at the present time and will soon be moving back to CO where you're going to live with your in-laws . Did I read correctly in another thread where it sounded like you were saying you used/were going to use student loan money to buy a gun?

This is just friendly advice from a guy you don't know but who's been where you are at some point in my earlier, much younger life. You need to set a course for your life before you even consider spending your limited resources on guns. I don't know of too many people who will tell you they really enjoyed their married life living with their (or her) parents...especially in their 30s. You're still young but you don't have an unlimited clock on settling into a career and life in general.

It's probably time you and your wife sat down and had a serious conversation about where you want to go with your lives and how you want to get there. I have no idea what your financial situation is aside from what you shared here and that sounds like you have limited means at the present time. I can tell you nothing will strangle your life in general and your relationship, and the ability to do things you want to do in life, like debt. That is a hard truth that many of us had to learn the hard way. Well...I did anyway. Taking on debt is the absolute worst thing you can do when you don't have a job, a house, etc... You're going to regret it.

Sit down with your wife and chart your course...your realistic course...going forward. Then start to do positive things that will allow you to get there and achieve what you've set out to do. I can tell you from personal experience you'll never get there if you have much debt at all.

Please take this advice in the spirit it's intended. I have no skin in your game...just trying to share some of life's little challenges that we've all faced at one point or another.

Good luck with whatever you do.

New nickname for Bailey Guns should be Dutch Uncle.
Well said, from the heart, advice given as an experienced true friend

[BushMasterBoy]

I'd try to find a job here at Spacex. I know it does not fit your present criteria, but at least take a look.

https://www.spacex.com/careers/

[jenznat0r]

I'm not judging you or what you do with your life. But I'm gathering from your other posts that you're about 32 years old, kind of adrift in life in not knowing exactly what you want to do, have limited finances at the present time and will soon be moving back to CO where you're going to live with your in-laws . Did I read correctly in another thread where it sounded like you were saying you used/were going to use student loan money to buy a gun?

This is just friendly advice from a guy you don't know but who's been where you are at some point in my earlier, much younger life. You need to set a course for your life before you even consider spending your limited resources on guns. I don't know of too many people who will tell you they really enjoyed their married life living with their (or her) parents...especially in their 30s. You're still young but you don't have an unlimited clock on settling into a career and life in general.

It's probably time you and your wife sat down and had a serious conversation about where you want to go with your lives and how you want to get there. I have no idea what your financial situation is aside from what you shared here and that sounds like you have limited means at the present time. I can tell you nothing will strangle your life in general and your relationship, and the ability to do things you want to do in life, like debt. That is a hard truth that many of us had to learn the hard way. Well...I did anyway. Taking on debt is the absolute worst thing you can do when you don't have a job, a house, etc... You're going to regret it.

Sit down with your wife and chart your course...your realistic course...going forward. Then start to do positive things that will allow you to get there and achieve what you've set out to do. I can tell you from personal experience you'll never get there if you have much debt at all.

Please take this advice in the spirit it's intended. I have no skin in your game...just trying to share some of life's little challenges that we've all faced at one point or another.

Good luck with whatever you do.

None taken sir. I realize I am way behind the curve, and I do have some life prioritization/immaturity issues that are a continual work in progress, but I'm at where I'm at. I kind of "hung out" from age 18 to almost 27 and my life went nowhere. It's when I met my wife that my life went faster than I guess I could process it. I'm 33 now, and I really only have about 6 years of genuine hard life experience under my belt, so just cut me some slack. I'm starting at 33 where most people in their early 20's start their lives. There was a point where we were in TONS of debt, but we managed to pay it off. We're still in debt, but at best it's around 700ish dollars. That's it. I own all the firearms I own for the time being, although there wasn't a point where that was always true. Having credit cards with a high limit can be a real detriment if you're not cautious and careful. Just being as open as I can with the internet while also having fear of some bashing/judgement.

[Great-Kazoo]

None taken sir. I realize I am way behind the curve, and I do have some life prioritization/immaturity issues that are a continual work in progress, but I'm at where I'm at. I kind of "hung out" from age 18 to almost 27 and my life went nowhere. It's when I met my wife that my life went faster than I guess I could process it. I'm 33 now, and I really only have about 6 years of genuine hard life experience under my belt, so just cut me some slack. I'm starting at 33 where most people in their early 20's start their lives. There was a point where we were in TONS of debt, but we managed to pay it off. We're still in debt, but at best it's around 700ish dollars. That's it. I own all the firearms I own for the time being, although there wasn't a point where that was always true. Having credit cards with a high limit can be a real detriment if you're not cautious and careful. Just being as open as I can with the internet while also having fear of some bashing/judgement.

You don't need to "Cut some Slack" You need to get it in gear, within the first 30-45 days after you hit CO. OR you'll never hear the end of, My Parents Said. or I need some space.

Under the in laws roof, I can guarantee you. They will have their daughter and any grandkids health & well being, wayyyyyy ahead of yours.

Especially if you oops, accidentally, say Hey cut me some slack. As mentioned have a plan, then 2 more when, and if, A-B falls thru. With the number of potential jobs out there, even stocking shelves will put food on the table. As well as show the in laws, you're making an attempt.





How have you managed to get this far, with no game plan?

[hunterhawk]

Stop talking about guns, and figure out a job so you dont turn into the alcoholic 40 year old step son living in the basement with no job playing video games all day... thats straight to the point.

[jenznat0r]

Why do you honestly think I outreached? To hear myself talk? I'm out of ideas, so I asked the internet. To ask the internet is a huge risk opening yourself up, so if I was so close-minded I wouldn't be asking. I'm trying to cobble it together.

[Grant H.]

At this point in time, don't look for a job that you want/love, look for the highest paying job you can find. Making money, and getting out of living with your inlaws is critical. This is not specific to your inlaws, but living with roommates would be better for your marriage than living with your inlaws. Living with inlaws puts an unreasonable strain on the spouse that is related. In my case my wife and I were living with my parents, and only for 2 weeks before the apartment we rented was available. One of my good friends lived with his wife's parents for 2-3 years, and they are still in counseling and largely only still married "for the children". In my personal case, the pressure from my parents was immense, to do things as they saw fit. In my buddies case, the wife was under the same pressure, but her attachment (largely true of most women, not all) to her parents caused her to side with them after some time, hence the long term counseling and maintaining their "relationship" for the children. If you can't get out of that situation, then do your best to shorten the time frame.

Sit down with your wife and build a budget. Stick to it. Budgeting is something that a lot of folks never figure out, and it will leave you living paycheck-to-paycheck for a long time. I would suggest that you and your wife go through Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University. I've personally seen this program put friends and family on a track that has them investing for retirement, living largely debt free (aside from the house), and sticking to a good budget. I've gone through it several times as a "course presenter" at my church.

As for jobs, regular armed security doesn't pay worth a damn. The armed security that is employed where I work makes $12/hr on the beat, and the "lead" for each shift is making $15-17/hr at best (I don't know them as well as the regular guys that stick their head in the lab and chat for a minute on rounds). Working security for MJ grows pays more, but is a pretty tight niche to get into, which means you're going to have experience to get there to start with.

While we are all here for our interest in firearms, I would suggest holding onto the G19 you have mentioned, but not buying anything else for now. Get your finances in order, get your wife and yourself on the same page as for a living situation, and start moving forward.

As someone who is only a couple years older than you, I would strongly suggest that you chase the dollar amount for jobs now, and once you are on your feet with a steady job, then you can start looking for a job that you "love". Given that you likely aren't chasing salaried/long term jobs to start with, prioritize the hourly wage over other "benefits"/"adjustments" that may be offered.

This isn't meant to be harsh, although I expect it will come across that way, so please try to read this for the actual content here, not the likely negative perception I expect.

Your responses make it sound like you have a sharp mind, and have picked up on some of the "missteps" that you have taken in life. However, it seems as if you have decided to use that knowledge as a method of deflecting from making necessary changes in your life that you don't want to. It strikes me as the alcoholic saying that "the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem... I have a problem" and then downing another beer/shot/etc...

So, as a peer of yours by age, I would strongly suggest that you not ask elders that offer advice to "cut you some slacK", but instead try and find even one small nugget in the advice given that can be applied to your life and make some changes.

[Great-Kazoo]

At this point in time, don't look for a job that you want/love, look for the highest paying job you can find. Making money, and getting out of living with your inlaws is critical. This is not specific to your inlaws, but living with roommates would be better for your marriage than living with your inlaws. Living with inlaws puts an unreasonable strain on the spouse that is related. In my case my wife and I were living with my parents, and only for 2 weeks before the apartment we rented was available. One of my good friends lived with his wife's parents for 2-3 years, and they are still in counseling and largely only still married "for the children". In my personal case, the pressure from my parents was immense, to do things as they saw fit. In my buddies case, the wife was under the same pressure, but her attachment (largely true of most women, not all) to her parents caused her to side with them after some time, hence the long term counseling and maintaining their "relationship" for the children. If you can't get out of that situation, then do your best to shorten the time frame.

Sit down with your wife and build a budget. Stick to it. Budgeting is something that a lot of folks never figure out, and it will leave you living paycheck-to-paycheck for a long time. I would suggest that you and your wife go through Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University. I've personally seen this program put friends and family on a track that has them investing for retirement, living largely debt free (aside from the house), and sticking to a good budget. I've gone through it several times as a "course presenter" at my church.

As for jobs, regular armed security doesn't pay worth a damn. The armed security that is employed where I work makes $12/hr on the beat, and the "lead" for each shift is making $15-17/hr at best (I don't know them as well as the regular guys that stick their head in the lab and chat for a minute on rounds). Working security for MJ grows pays more, but is a pretty tight niche to get into, which means you're going to have experience to get there to start with.

While we are all here for our interest in firearms, I would suggest holding onto the G19 you have mentioned, but not buying anything else for now. Get your finances in order, get your wife and yourself on the same page as for a living situation, and start moving forward.

As someone who is only a couple years older than you, I would strongly suggest that you chase the dollar amount for jobs now, and once you are on your feet with a steady job, then you can start looking for a job that you "love". Given that you likely aren't chasing salaried/long term jobs to start with, prioritize the hourly wage over other "benefits"/"adjustments" that may be offered.

This isn't meant to be harsh, although I expect it will come across that way, so please try to read this for the actual content here, not the likely negative perception I expect.

Your responses make it sound like you have a sharp mind, and have picked up on some of the "missteps" that you have taken in life. However, it seems as if you have decided to use that knowledge as a method of deflecting from making necessary changes in your life that you don't want to. It strikes me as the alcoholic saying that "the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem... I have a problem" and then downing another beer/shot/etc...

So, as a peer of yours by age, I would strongly suggest that you not ask elders that offer advice to "cut you some slacK", but instead try and find even one small nugget in the advice given that can be applied to your life and make some changes.

Very well said.

[Great-Kazoo]

Why do you honestly think I outreached? To hear myself talk? I'm out of ideas, so I asked the internet. To ask the internet is a huge risk opening yourself up, so if I was so close-minded I wouldn't be asking. I'm trying to cobble it together.

Trying to cobble it together at your age.??
Sounds like an alcoholic relation of mine. You want to make some money and have some benefits. Here's a hint. Chik-Fil- A starts their employees @ $15 per hour. You can't make that $$ wearing a uniform, walking around rattling doors at some construction site.
Plus you're indoors and benefits in 60? days.


Back in the mid 80's, i'm in between jobs, after the oil bust in CO. I was tossing papers (RMN)@ 3 in the a.m to put food on the table, keep the lights on and not lose my house.. Was it something i wanted to do? FUCK NO!
BUT i sucked it up and accepted work that would pay me. Instead of asking to be cut some slack, like a whiney 10 yr old.

Sac up, put your nose to the grindstone and get a job, once you move to CO.

[BushMasterBoy]

Dear jenznat0r,

The most profitable work I have ever done is selling merchandise on ebay, craigs, etc. My inventory comes from yard sales, thrift stores etc. You need a camera, computer, printer & scale to weigh for postage. I learned some HTML, photography and writing skills along the way. My usual niche was military surplus and vintage militaria. But I would sell almost anything. Since I only paid pennies on the dollar, I would always undercut the other sellers and make a fast buck. Sometimes I just got things for free and sold them. I have even sold coins & tokens I found metal detecting. I sold rocks from Cripple Creek as gold ore...use your imagination.

BMB