Another reason to avoid Denver Saturday

[CS1983]

^^ I hear what you're saying... But maybe those guys (3%'ers, Oathkeepers, etc) have enough sense to stay away from nonsense like this. Like most of us do.

I watched a 3% “training weekend” video. I’ve seen more tactical behavior from Iraqi army dudes. It was like F troop’s outtakes.

[eddiememphis]

3%er principal

"3. No First Use of Force - "Don't fire unless fired upon". We are not the aggressor nor
antagonist. We are purely defensive and only as a last resort."

I don't think the victim was a member.

[roberth]

^^ I hear what you're saying... But maybe those guys (3%'ers, Oathkeepers, etc) have enough sense to stay away from nonsense like this. Like most of us do.

IIRC, Steffan Tubbs was promoting this event and breathlessly repeating "we have to show up".

There is ZERO good reason to attend these events, ZERO.

Now, if you want to get arrested for defending yourself, these events are an excellent opportunity for that. The only reason Mr. Asshole didn't get arrested is because he got himself killed.

[MrPrena]

When assholes collide

IIRC, Steffan Tubbs was promoting this event and breathlessly repeating "we have to show up".

There is ZERO good reason to attend these events, ZERO.

Now, if you want to get arrested for defending yourself, these events are an excellent opportunity for that. The only reason Mr. Asshole didn't get arrested is because he got himself killed.

^ THIS

It takes 2 hands to make a clapping sound.
I don't care they are right or left wing nut wack tin foil group. You can leave the damn attitude at a basement. If someone has a energy to fuck around there with OC/Bearsprak/Bing-Glock that look ZEVed out, you have time to cold canvas local state federal level of republican candidates (or whatever your party is). Both parties need volunteers with full coordination with the election office or state/county party office.

Common logic. If someone brings Armenian Flag and wave around honking the horn at Azerbaijani Territory, they will most likely get shot.
If Azerbaijani does the same at Armenian territory, same consequences.

[Ridge]

Watching the video posted on the last page, it looks like the dead guy was like just roaming from fight to fight, trying to start shit and piss everyone off.

[fitz19d]

It really is funny seeing the difference biases change how we see the same video's. Don't get me wrong, I dont think victim was afraid of getting in faces and mouthing off like you see at every protest vs protest situation over the last few years. But I don't see him as instigating nearly as much as BLM guy disguising himself to slip past police into the patriot area was.

[roberth]

It really is funny seeing the difference biases change how we see the same video's. Don't get me wrong, I dont think victim was afraid of getting in faces and mouthing off like you see at every protest vs protest situation over the last few years. But I don't see him as instigating nearly as much as BLM guy disguising himself to slip past police into the patriot area was.

I didn't notice that...

It would be part of their game plan, especially if they think they're immune from prosecution.

[.455_Hunter]

I wonder what was specifically communicated to between the deceased and shooter in the second or two before the hand-to-hand sparing occurred? Why did they engage each other?

[fitz19d]

I wonder what was specifically communicated to between the deceased and shooter in the second or two before the hand-to-hand sparing occurred? Why did they engage each other?

Some theorized that he was actually running to the cops 50 feet behind the cameraman. That's the biggest mystery still what made him suddenly disengage from the clear threat of sorts to go after milquetoast white boys.

[BushMasterBoy]

There is some evidence that the deceased was also carrying a firearm. I saw photos on the interwebz. Looked concealed under left arm. Maybe that was why two firearms reported. Maybe shooter saw firearm and demeanor of deceased and figured to get first shot in. Maybe the press will report what really went down?