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    That's a fast draw!

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    From that video it DOES NOT look like a valid defensive shooting.
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    Are there any media (pics, video, etc) that shows how did the deceased and the shooter become engaged?

    Everything I have seen is either before that time, or when they are already sparing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Are there any media (pics, video, etc) that shows how did the deceased and the shooter become engaged?

    Everything I have seen is either before that time, or when they are already sparing.
    The 9news producer in the blue shirt surely has video or audio of this. He was there specifically to take video and had posted videos of the protest earlier in his Twitter feed. He had a phone in EACH hand during this deadly confrontation. Doesn't look like he had them pointed in the perfect direction, but maybe they were recording and have some audible clues.

    If he does, I'm not surprised we haven't seen it yet. 9News is only going to provide that to investigators if it hasn't already been deleted or the police don't already have them in their possession.

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    Fwiw if you look closely, there is a frame where the spray has been deployed & the slide is out of battery. I can even see the brass still in the air not but a few inches away between 12 & 1 o'clock.
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    Cops sure got a lot of street cameras. Too bad we can't see what they capture.

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    And here's the 9news producer's video.

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/...enver-protest/

    https://youtu.be/4D6Ad18lFYg

    Notice how the moment after the scuffle starts and the cameraman has obviously been knocked off balance a bit, it mysteriously stops recording, at the most critical moment. I'd guess he "bumped" the record button while off balance...

    In any case, the video we're provided here says he stopped recording for 12 seconds...

    But then somehow, while still clearly off balance again, the recording miraculously starts back up.

    Huh.

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    The 9News producer immediately says "that guy was going to get me"... seriously, "get you"? So scary. He was going to "get" him. Not "kill" him. Not "hurt" him. Not "assault" him.

    GET him.

    As in, he hadn't done anything to him yet.

    Also, I think it's a bit telling that he had his press pass concealed in his pocket. He didn't have it out to make it clear to everyone that he was press. Unlike the Denver Post photographer that had a hiviz vest with the word "press" on it. Why would he want to conceal the fact he was press?

    Edit: updated link to CBS. Should work now. The original link that doesn't work now included the before and after videos with captions explaining that the 9news guy stopped recording for 12 seconds. Now there are two separate videos with no captions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    And here's the 9news producer's video.

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/...-denver-rally/

    Notice how the moment after the scuffle starts, and the cameraman has obviously been knocked off balance a bit, it mysteriously stops recording, at the most critical moment. I'd guess he "bumped" the record button while off balance...

    In any case, the video we're provided here says he stopped recording for 12 seconds...

    But then somehow, while still clearly off balance again, the recording miraculously starts back up.

    Huh.
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    So much for that video........
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    ? An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: CqHXoh988jPcDO93)
    Learn More ?

    So much for that video........
    I added another direct link to the video on youtube. Hopefully that works.

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